Not too many reads about villain, seemed relatively straightforward to me, haven't seen him go out of line.

Well played as long as River is a call. It’s uncomfortable , but couldn’t imagine folding for this price and our FH blocker

I think I just 3b jam pre, but yeah I guess we call down.

def one of the best calling hands we can have in that spot, easy call otr.

Theoretically great hand to call , but his turn sizing has me worried he is already boated up and trying to milk you. Still feels like you can’t fold though, unlucky

Without a solid read on V. One of the best hand we could have in this spot. Sigh call

Ditto

It's a fold IMO. And I am not results oriented. What happened is that after the bet, I was looking at the board trying to figure out to do, while also tending to other tables. One part of me was "lol, i have trips and a straight, it's a call" and another one was "wait a minute, what am I beating here?" And as I was looking at the board, I timed out and folded. Usually, I would have been pretty upset about it, but not this time. It's not like I am a nit, I am usually a calling station. But the call didn't make sense to me.

Let's ask the first question. What part of villain's value range do we beat? Answer. Not one hand. Villain's value range consists of KJ, KT, some discounted K9, i think, let's give him only the suited ones, JJ, TT and AQ. That's by my count 25 hands.

But Levi, you might say, how about AK? Well, first of all there are only 4 AK combos left in the deck. Most importantly, Villain must be a mouth breather betting AK in that texture. Nothing that he beats calls him in that spot and my calling range is full of broadways which got there. AK is probably too strong to bet as a bluff, so it's probably a check. Whether it's a check call or check fold I don't know, but I want to say it's probably a check fold.

There are also some KQ and QJ and QT we split the pot with, but I am not sure they are enough.

So, ok, how about his bluffs. In game, it was very tough for me to see what type of hands he would be bluffing with. After I sat down and saw the hand again, I noticed that villain had picked up a flush draw on the turn that could conceivably allowed him to double barrel. Do note, I am not sure how many people would barrel the flop with a hand like 6h7h or Ah5h. So, again conceivably and theoretically, he could be turning a chunk, not all of his whiffed flush draws into bluffs on the river.

But in the real world, how many non-sicko grinders would do that? My assumption would be, not many, especially, if they are playing an exploitative style in which they know that most of the people call on that spot. I mean, if you have a Ah5h and you re thinking, "well, if I shove here, JT definitely fold, but I also need to make KQ and QJ fold, is that really happening?"

Last, but not least there are two other factors I didn't consider in game. First is that this is a progressive knockout, so the value of the bounty should shave a few percentage points from the equity we need to make a call. That's somewhat counterbalanced by the fact that there's ICM in play which should make our calls a bit tighter. How much precisely each factor counts, I don't know.

Again, I could be wrong on this. Theoretically, it's probably a call. In the real world against most people? I don't think it is.

First of all, not 3bet jamming pre is a big mistake IMO.

As played, I don't agree that most villains wouldn't bluff with 6h7h and the like. If a player opened 6h7h, I would be surprised if he didn't cbet, and continue when the FD gets there.

Only thing is I think the sizing on the turn is suspicious, but if Villain is good and knows we're good, it could be a good way to balance and get a cheap bluff in.

In the end, I think I'm calling here. Do we have reads on Villain? How much was the bounty relative to the prizepool?

So that value range of 25 combos.. 12 of them are aq, and i don’t think aq is using this sizing on the turn very often, if at all. There are about 25 chop combos that are very real that could use this sizing, and yeah the like 12 boat combos that most likely use this sizing. As far as bluffs, I agree since we should have a straight like always here when villain unblocks it, it’s a poor spot to pick, but to discount bluffs completely is probably a mistake.

We have to anticipate that villain knows it’s hard for us to have a boat/ flops nutsconsidering we didn’t raise flop with two pair and were jamming pre with TT, JJ, aq pre. I just think this is one of the spots where we have to defend against exploits and click call.

lol times out otr in huge pot on FT bubble of 6max?
play less tables dumb dumb

gross spot for sure, can't hate on a fold and don't tell nobody, but if he shows some kind of bluff, might have to off myself

hmmm this
even if he was actually leveling himself to induce an informatics fold lol