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03-09-2018 , 06:57 AM

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Tricky spot because I have all 8 players behind, most of whom have me covered.

Blind and antes represent 2.5 BB and a 12.5% return on my 20BB starting stack. Odds of someone having a better hand (JJ+, AQ/AK) are ~ 20% and I expect that all of those hands will raise or call my all-in.

9th place is $350, first place is close to $3K.

The choices seem to be fold or raise 2.5BB.

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03-09-2018 , 10:07 AM

persianpunisher

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Fold pre.

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03-09-2018 , 10:26 AM

3for3poker

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Depends on the table. Almost always folding AT. Almost always raising AQ. Fold is my default unless table is super tight.

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03-09-2018 , 10:26 AM

Beachman42

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Originally Posted by persianpunisher

Fold pre.

Historically, AJo is the most frequent last hand of my MTTs.

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03-09-2018 , 11:00 AM

persianpunisher

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9-handed live I usually open this hand (10 handed it's a turbo muck). Being at an FT though it's not worth it. ICM.

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03-09-2018 , 08:04 PM

bptuneman

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Based on all the Twitch pros I watch win 10k every weekend, I think almost all insta fold that with 20bb simply based on position alone, whereas several would shove it from the cutoff forward.

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03-09-2018 , 11:59 PM

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centurion

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Originally Posted by Beachman42

Historically, AJo is the most frequent last hand of my MTTs.

It turned out to be my last hand in this event as well.

I opened 2.5BB, someone flatted with AK here and the flop brought an ace.

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03-10-2018 , 02:36 AM

wowsooooted

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would never fold anywhere, AT,KQ included

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03-10-2018 , 03:25 AM

OutPlayU27

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How can you people say what is best here ? We don’t even know if is an online MTT, a live one ? The buy in ? No info on players at the table ?
In a vacuum we have good blockers to go for a steal x2,2 and go from there (to nitty to fold , unless I have reasons to do so ) , also since we are the short stack at FT , ICM doesn’t affect us that much (I see a lot mistakes that short stack do , that play way to tight in this spots, and I think it should be the opposite imo )

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03-10-2018 , 04:01 AM

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centurion

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Originally Posted by OutPlayU27

Which of those factors are relevant? UTG with 8 players behind, we have no betting information from the players in front of us.

Regardless of format or buyin amount, we have a 20% chance that someone has us dominated and almost no chance of scaring off the dominating hands (possible exception of AQ).

FWIW - The subject line indicates we are in 7th (of 9), not the short stack.

The lesson I take from this hand is the relatively high chance that we are dominated with so many players still to act. In the future in this spot, I'll probably fold pre.

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03-10-2018 , 04:22 AM

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OutPlayU27

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How can you be at FT and have no info in players ?
Is hard to give a good answer to your question , with no info on others ... like, do we cover SB/BB ? Does the players behind are good/aggro?
And ofc it matters the format or buy-in (in live MTT’s players tend to be more passive/weak, where online , players are more aggressive/good etc obv depends on buy-in also )

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