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01-27-2012 , 06:51 AM

IliketoMUUF

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 274

BB is a good reg with an AvgBI of $70. Ive been very active at the FT and we already have some 3beting/4beting history. We didnt have any BvB spots before, so no idea how wide he will defend his BB (pretty wide I guess)

I obv planned to bet/get it in OTF but have no idea whats best OTT. thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 9000/18000 Blinds 2250 Ante (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 (t159342)
CO (t662245)
Button (t328976)
Hero (SB) (t1867900)
BB (t696210)
UTG (t973383)
MP1 (t146944)

Hero's M: 43.69

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

, 5

5 folds, Hero bets t43215, BB calls t25215

Flop: (t102180) 6

, 4

, 10

(2 players)
Hero bets t46555, BB calls t46555

Turn: (t195290) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets t74440, Hero raises to t1775880 (All-In)

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01-27-2012 , 07:03 AM

Finnera

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,621

well a 10x pot jam ott atleast sucks

it basically screams that you are drawing and TJ would be hard to muck here.

you should've just called that, since v's ott bet is small so implied odds cover that nicely.

i'd prefer a bet ott, but we'd have to fold to a large raise, which sucks, but its not that often you get raised here.

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01-27-2012 , 07:14 AM

IliketoMUUF

journeyman

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 274

well, he has like 500k behind and the pot is 270k, so its closer to 2x pot than 10x pot. I thought about making it like 190k, but dont know if this is really better.

if we just call here, what do you do if the river bricks?

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01-27-2012 , 07:31 AM

Finnera

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,621

ok, sure, missed the eff stacks. but still its a call. with a smaller raise you are just basically pricing yourself in for a call. if we brick, its either a b/f or c/f otr, depending on how freaky I feel. prolly c/f due to icm, if ft is soft.

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01-27-2012 , 07:52 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

a good reg sees right through this move. its hard to imagine you'd give a free card with two pair+ or play a mid pair/TPGK type of hands like this. (eff stacks on turn are like 615k, way too deep to c/shove vs such a bet)
i'd double barrel ~85k /3bshove unless i somehow get a soulread that he will never ever evere r/f turn.

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01-27-2012 , 08:05 AM

prayforsnow8

banned

Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 425

Say turn goes bet, call.. What are we doing on blank rivers? How about a kqj or A river?

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01-27-2012 , 08:11 AM

furo

deviation of equilibrium

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 29,639

hard to answer but since we catched some showdown value i might check/soulread river. since his range is pretty capped i might c/shove river.
i might overbet river as a bluff to get his bluffcatchers to fold.

i'd not make a ~50% pot bet BvB since his bluffcatchers > my showdown value and my hand is > his draws so it makes no sense to vbet river with a bluffcatcher.

hard to answer in a pokerforum since it depends on history / timings of this hand / soulreads. but c/f - c/shove - overbet >>>>>>>> std valuebet / std tripple barrel bluff

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01-27-2012 , 08:17 AM

Finnera

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Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,621

since bb is good, I cant see him folding Tx to 1 overcard here if all draws miss. we cant basically have jj-aa here. so, id lamely c/f this otr in this particular setting.

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01-27-2012 , 09:30 AM

MartinGuthOBV

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 2,007

pre and flop fine
if hes a real sikko then fold pre
but w/e its a 5c

turn bet/get it in smth like 111111

as played i dont like c/jam OTT,
i think if i check then c/c imo

i mean hes never folding Tx or smth

dont see any merit in c/jamming OTT...

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01-27-2012 , 09:41 AM

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Finnera

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 1,621

actually 111111/c ott see,s slightly ev+, since you have to call like 500k to 800k pot = need 38% equity if we assume 8's, 9's, haats, 5's as outs = 42%.

aaaaanywho, its b/c > c/c ott and river is a c/f if we miss

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