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08-21-2018 , 12:34 PM
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    Poker Stars, $0.98 Buy-in (20,000/40,000 blinds, 6,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37936093

    SB: 8,122,593 (203.1 bb)
    BB: 3,044,091 (76.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,736,469 (93.4 bb)
    MP1: 587,041 (14.7 bb)
    MP2: 2,585,632 (64.6 bb)
    MP3: 1,981,646 (49.5 bb)
    CO: 497,852 (12.4 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 1,064,676 (26.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K A
    2 folds, MP2 raises to 80,000, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1,058,676 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP2 calls 978,676

    Flop: (2,225,352) 6 7 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (2,225,352) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (2,225,352) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)




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    So.. I pasted to ICMIZER, put V 21% OR from EP (that's the number I have in 300 hands, and he was playing very loose) And ICMIZER says: QQ+

    Is this because of the 2 short stacks? It would be a push without them?

    In a spot like this where now I know I can't push, can I call?? 3bet I don't think so, two big stacks at the blinds which were playing losts of hands
    Last edited by tucanroman; 08-21-2018 at 12:39 PM.
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    08-21-2018 , 03:16 PM
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    Think I'm saying **** ICMIZER on this one and getting it in the middle regardless of the two shorter stacks. Maybe this is why I'm never improving hehe XD
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    08-21-2018 , 05:28 PM
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    Ya I just stick it in

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    08-23-2018 , 03:12 AM
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    Are you sure about your ICMizer results? QQ looks like a range for calling a push rather than shoving over an open - seems a very clear jam - shortstacks or not
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    08-23-2018 , 11:33 AM
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    I don't know if I am using ICMIZER right. I pasted the hand, choose "ICM" choose "pokerstars MTT 1500 man", changed the V range from 8% to 21% and press calculate. It says now JJ+ because in 1st try blinds were 20/40 then a friend told me to change it.



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    08-23-2018 , 05:06 PM
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    I don't use ICMizer - but I think that the problem is with the calling ranges - It seems to be putting calling ranges for SB BB and MP2 at 8% which includes hands like 88 and KTs - which they will never call with - try it at 4-5 % (maybe 6% for MP2) and see what that looks like - also the antes are wrong - which will make a small difference.
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    08-24-2018 , 09:54 PM
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    Can't really feel that bad losing with AK here, calling pre flop isn't a bad option too if you don't feel like flipping, but most players would say go with it.
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    08-25-2018 , 07:34 PM
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    id probably 3b/c with the big stacks behind, esp if they have any clue and could 4b a bit lighter than normal
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    08-26-2018 , 09:16 AM
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by gamboneee
    id probably 3b/c with the big stacks behind, esp if they have any clue and could 4b a bit lighter than normal
    But ICM means we want to avoid gii against bigger stack. Even with 60 % equity in terms of chip EV it's neutral or -ve $EV I would say. Better to shove to maximise fold equity imo.
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    08-26-2018 , 08:32 PM
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    you're already covered; being covered twice doesnt matter
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    08-27-2018 , 01:38 PM
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    But the point is we're not strong enough to want to induce here from either stack.
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