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01-18-2019 , 05:34 AM

moegraph

stranger

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 9

Final Table
Blinds: 1,200/2,400
Buy-in: $3,000 GTD 8-Max

6 players

Stacks:
UTG - UTG (T126,056)
MP - MP (T68,384)
CO - Hero (T100,025)
BTN - BTN (T47,272)
SB - SB (T55,996)
BB - BB (T134,267)

Preflop: (T5,400, 6 players) Hero is CO with K

2 folds, Hero raises to T4,800, 2 folds, BB calls T2,400

Flop: J

(T12,600, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets T3,150, BB calls T3,150

Turn: 6

(T18,900, 2 players)
BB bets T14,175, Hero calls T14,175

River: 8

(T47,250, 2 players)
BB bets T28,000, Hero calls T28,000

Total Pot: T103,250
Hero mucks K

BB shows J

(with Three Of Kind of Js)

Villian in past hands was flatting my pre-flop raises especially a few times on BB. I was thinking I should have preflop shoved in this situation. Thoughts?

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01-18-2019 , 06:53 AM

swissodds

adept

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,103

pretty standard except for the river call. you are only beating bluffs at that point so it might be player dependant but I think river is mostly à fold. btw, there s no argument for an open shove pre w/ +40bb vs bb that covers you. way too high variance imho and icm wise it d ne just bad

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01-18-2019 , 06:59 AM

moegraph

stranger

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 9

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Originally Posted by swissodds

Thanks! I only called river because I saw him bluffing 3 separate hands prior on all 3 streets. One of which he had Q4o and I won a big pot off him. But I understand what you are saying.

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01-18-2019 , 08:58 AM

nonsimplesimon

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 10,007

Don't post results.

Muck the river. He's saying he's got tptk beat and it's an uncommon bluff spot given final table dynamics.

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01-18-2019 , 12:03 PM

JoeC2012

veteran

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,717

Anyone wanna check the flop? This is a gross ICM flop and we haven't exactly flopped a monster.

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01-18-2019 , 04:15 PM

oldsilver

MTTLivePro

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,941

+1 check flop

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01-19-2019 , 12:40 AM

KevinGChapman

grinder

Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 656

Why only 2x raise pre-flop? Is there no ante? Not sure if villain would defend BB against 3x raise. Giving BB such good odds to call is a recipe for this kind of spot.

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01-19-2019 , 01:27 AM

oldsilver

MTTLivePro

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,941

checking flop also entices bluffs, and it’s classic WAWB spot where we don’t have to fear overcards hitting

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01-19-2019 , 01:32 AM

bearer

old hand

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,688

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Originally Posted by KevinGChapman

Why only 2x raise pre-flop? Is there no ante? Not sure if villain would defend BB against 3x raise. Giving BB such good odds to call is a recipe for this kind of spot.

Feast or famine. Min raise didn't work out so next time I shove!

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01-24-2019 , 08:41 PM

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swissodds

adept

Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,103

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Originally Posted by JoeC2012

Anyone wanna check the flop? This is a gross ICM flop and we haven't exactly flopped a monster.

didn't talk abt wht could have been done on other streets but yes, obvsly this

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01-25-2019 , 01:24 AM

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maletaja81

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 177

ch flop, we don't have many bad cards, maybe Q
turn, river standard call and we don't lose much
Second thing what if he ch raise flop, we are quite a bad spot then

As played-pattern ch call and lead turn. Its typical way to hide your strength. Its not typical bluff

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01-25-2019 , 09:03 PM

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jpgiro

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,431

Think betting flop is fine, maybe need to bet bigger, villain is going to have lots of Jx here for sure in BB but also has bunches of worse pairs (including worse Kx), spade draws, Q9/QT/T9/AT type hands that all will call at least one street. If we get c/r on flop it kind of sucks but we have all of our air and and low-equity draw/bad pairs to fold first so we can at least call flop/decide turn. I think if I'm going to check back some Kx on this board it'll be Kx with a spade in my hand.

As played fold river, as we should have some flushes, Jx and even AsKx/KxQs that we can call with ahead of AK with no flush blockers.

Last edited by jpgiro; 01-25-2019 at 09:09 PM.

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