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Originally Posted by EggsMcBluffin
H1 Much bigger flop, not too much to be afraid of on [972]r and your combo probably almost always good.
I def thought my hand was good, but my concern was villain floating me very wide. In addition to any pair, I think he floats overs w back door draws (A8s w bdfd, KJ, KQ, J10, AJ, A10, etc.) and I didn’t want to bloat the pot OOP. I’m not saying that’s the correct strategy, but against an aggro villain who I think views me as weak, I was treading carefully).
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Either barreling turn half pot or checking, can't go wrong either way.
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River is exactly the right idea vs a range that's mostly worse 9x and 7x-. I think his raise size is silly because I don't think he can raise worse than nutted stuff for value. It's a good bet targeting Q9,96,95s,94s,93s,A7,K7,Q7,66,55,44,33
Im glad there’s at least one guy who didn’t hate my river lead. I knew I’d have to make some uncomfortable call downs, but it was for value.
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The corollary of that is, you rep a very specific and easy to identify part of your range when you take this sizing in particular, and generally you do not rep very strong. 9x is kinda the top of your range for the small-sizing delay.
I had done this weak lead a few times before this. Once I folded to a raise, once I was just called by 3rd pair (I had trips) and now this one. I tried to mix it up and did occasionally weak lead top of my range. Generally, I agree with your read tho.
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I personally think I'd have done a good job as IP finding bluffs here, raising a lot of my 2x and 7x but I would always be raising all-in. Why ever not value 8x to the max? His sizing makes no sense unless he really expects you to spew in some direction--either too tight or too loose.
I think it's equally annoying to fold and see 2x or 7x vs losing the extra 10bb so I'd probably mix my decision and it's probably close to breakeven anyway if V is doing his job correctly. But hey that sizing may just be totally nutted in which case bet-f is pretty neat.
You almost surely occupy too much of the 9x rank and file to just scurry away from it 100% of the time when raised. You'd need some justification if you decide to never call here.
I kinda mentioned my thought process before but I agree with all this. His sizing made no sense to me, had he jammed, I think I fold.
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H2 you can start folding OTT. You're never beating any of his value once he barrels for that sizing. Having a straight draw/straight blocker is generally a lot more important than having top pair.
Folding river for that same reason--he should show up with a lot of straights so blocking them is really important.
I agree with your (and others) thought process re: this hand in a vacuum. But we were in the final 110 or so of the Venom, with $1.5m up top. Because of that situation, I don’t think his value range is as wide as it should be, and certainly not for almost all of his chips. Added to that my read that he viewed me as a weaker player, I found the call. Theoretically I guess it was bad, but I thought the situation was unique and my call was warranted.
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H3 Calling QQ+,AKs and flipping a coin with JJ,TT. Personally would 4b KK and a tiny bit of QQ and always 4b shipping AK. Vs you in game I'd find folds vs the 3b at least some TT-,ATs,KJs,QJs,AQo etc, and once in a while I'd make it 14bb with AA,A4s,A5s,AJs,AQs,AKs,KQs,KJs
I don’t love his call with AKo, but it can’t be bad. That’s an interesting range you have for a 4bet bluff. I don’t think I have the balls for that
Edit: sry for the formatting when I use my phone. Too lazy to go through it and delete those superfluous AÂ’s that show up on every contraction. Ugh
Last edited by auralex14; 08-15-2021 at 03:32 PM.