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08-11-2019 , 10:34 AM

Wickedestjr

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 16

$250 buy in, very close to money bubble. 16 left and 14 cash, we’re playing 8handed. Blinds are 5k-2.5k with 5k bb-ante. Villain is one of the bigger stacks at the table playing ~170k. I’m around average stack with 103k. There’s one short stack at my table playing ~50k, one monster stack on the button, and everyone else is around average like me.

Villain raises to 11k on CO.
I defend BB with 8

Flop comes 9

[Pot: 29.5k]

I check call a bet of 10k.

Turn comes 2

[Pot: 49.5k]

Check check.

River comes 10

[Pot: 49.5k]

I check. Villain bets 35k. ???

How would you play this hand? What should I have done differently, if anything?

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08-11-2019 , 10:48 AM

jjjou812

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,596

I did not think it was a unique style but I generally fold my **** hands preflop and call or raise with my **** hands when I hit my draws, especially near the money bubble.

I don't really know what your question is... I call river. I would risk half my stack at this point of the tourney with a straight. Probably would not raise for icm considerations and belief that only get called by better hand. Otherwise, fold pre and fold flop if you are thinking about folding river.

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08-11-2019 , 10:56 AM

TheToastrOven

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Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 366

He's value betting worse hands. Call river. If you're trying this hard to preserve chips, then just fold pre.

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08-11-2019 , 11:04 AM

Wickedestjr

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Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 16

Thanks for the advice. Is 87s strong enough to defend in this spot? I’m not sure what range I should be defending the big blind against an aggressive opponent who has me covered.

What worse hands is he value betting with on the river that also check back the turn?

Also: should I ever be leading out on that turn card?

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08-11-2019 , 11:14 AM

TheToastrOven

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Originally Posted by Wickedestjr

What worse hands is he value betting with on the river that also check back the turn?

I'm an idiot. Ignore me. I misread your post and thought river was third club.

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08-11-2019 , 06:09 PM

jjjou812

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Yeah, I read it as third club was on the river too. With 4 clubs on board, fold river. I would consider 87 suited strong enough to defend on the bubble to a min raise.

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08-12-2019 , 01:10 AM

bearer

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,688

ChipEV call. He’s overbluffing.

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08-12-2019 , 02:40 AM

oldsilver

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,941

we don't have to be so passive here

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08-13-2019 , 12:02 PM

3for3poker

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Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,502

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Originally Posted by oldsilver

we don't have to be so passive here

What street are you playing differently? Maybe a blocking bet on the river versus certain Villains would be good, but other than that, I don't see a place to get busy.

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08-13-2019 , 07:32 PM

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daviid

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very std hand, easy fold otr. you have a gazillion flushes in your range otr and might check most of them to vil, so no need to call off with straights

also doing anything differently on any street makes little sense, especially due to icm considerations.

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08-14-2019 , 01:41 AM

#11

lolposting2016

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 2,149

Think you get to x/r a bit here but otherwise it’s fine fold river nh

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08-14-2019 , 08:35 AM

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EggsMcBluffin

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Join Date: Feb 2019 Posts: 1,457

Always betting 2bb OTR expecting to get called by 2pr, Tx, 9x, occasionally A-high (we arrive at river w/ enough KJ-KQ, QJ, et al to force V to bluffcatch w/ A-high occasionally, and we have enough flushes to keep V's raising in line so we don't get blown off our hand)

We can definitely x/r flop with a wide range (thus using smallish sizing) like 9x and FDs and we can include this hand at a low freq, but mostly this is a flat because we have enough better bluffs (like FDs) to balance our x/r range without including too much 87s and if we x/r too much 87 then we becvome too weak on 5 and T turns when we flat flop so mostly x/c flop.

Last edited by EggsMcBluffin; 08-14-2019 at 08:40 AM.

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08-14-2019 , 11:23 AM

#13

herbalerv

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Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 773

Would call river here , expect his value range to be narrow at this sizing and a lot of value combos that would go this size on river would bet turn , both the made hands and the then draws, looks like just non club high cards trying to blow you off 6x and 9x

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08-14-2019 , 11:49 AM

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Jkpoker10

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I think you should x/raise flop here. And consider bomb turn on that card. Raise enough to leave like .8-1x pot on turn and consider bombing. I guess though on money bubble, taking a tight line is fine though. M

Remember Villian doesn’t want to throw away 100k of his stack here and if he’s aggro, his range is wide and can fold to a x/raise or x/raise, bomb turn.

I’ll prolly get flak for this but even bombing his preflop raise doesn’t seem terrible here. Aggro opponent should fold pre here a lot and even with better hands than 7-8. This is a tough spot.

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