PS, Hot $22

PokerStars - 30/60 Ante 8 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 132.48 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
Hero (UTG): 195.53 BB
UTG+1: 66.27 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 6)
MP: 78.77 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+1: 81.1 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 7.17 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
BTN: 172.78 BB (VPIP: 80.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
SB: 81.7 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.57 BB) Hero has Q A

Hero raises to 2.22 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 1.22 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 9 4 J
BB checks, Hero bets 2.33 BB, BB raises to 5.85 BB, Hero calls 3.52 BB

Turn: (17.7 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (17.7 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 8.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

OTF it came kind of clear to me that he has gs or oesd and/or good bdfd. I don't believe that he has TPGK because he would 3-bet pre with this hands if he likes to raise. And I don't think that he x/r a set because it's too straightforward play. And I don't believe that he turned his set to bluff because we are not in MEFT just yet.

OTT : If I am right and he has a draw I can bet and he will most likely fold. But If I am wrong and he has a set, then he x/r again and I will fold. I don't like it. I check-back.

OTR : this looks weird. if he has fh now he would probably bet bigger to rep a busted draw..and vice versa. 1/2 of the pot seems akward. and I have a lot of chips! So, call.

Check back flop...not a texture where we wanna bet FR.

You can peel the c/r on a rainbow flop but > on J42r imo...otr real bad bluffcatcher...Qx is the nutworst blocker and As is bad too (blocking A2ss and A5ss.)

Lol just saw vill shut down ott...well just assume he c/r some draws and BDs then check calls...not sure but I can see some plyrs doing this at lower BIs?

Otr after vill checks turn I think ur facing more Jx than air...but who knows and u only have to be good 25% of the time.

yeah, he had 87o. we are doing it all the time in small limits. You can find similar story in another post, would appreciate your comments there!

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...t-otf-1718032/

Wow nhnh..vill missed a great opp to barrel-off here with 8s7x or 8x7s imo...

interesting...what hands he would represent here by betting ott and otr?

Does it matter if he thinks Hero won't call down 3 barrels with ace high?

Yes, I supposed that he can't bluff with ATC, can he? His actions needs to make sense. The only plausible explanation would be a set of 4 or 9, but again - why would he x/r with the a set OTF?

Checking back flop seems mandatory here. As played, I'm not sure I love the flop c/r peel because we should have so many better hands with equity here. I can easily see peeling suited AQ here with backdoor draws to the nut flush, but AQo seems a little ambitious.

River is whatever, as noted you have a pretty awful bluffcatcher so you need to have some kind of read this particular v bluffs with air a decent amount.

Do you really think having the 8 or 7 of spades is such a great blocker that it makes that a good barrel?

Yeah check-back flop here. That's not a good flop for you UTG vs. a BB defend.

Because most KQ hands are still calling after the check-raise, as are AJ, AKs/AQs (spaces, hearts and diamonds) hands and overpairs. There's plenty of hands that will continue here after you check-raise a set, plus you need to build a pot when you're 130+ bbs effective before action-killing cards start popping up. I'm definitely check-raising my sets here 100% vs. an UTG raise pre.

But there are multiple drawing hands in BB defending range : 87, QT, Q8 and check-back allows them to see the turn card for free..are we just ignoring them because it's negligible part of his range?

Could someone briefly* explain why do we check-back OTF here? I don't see any advantages of that over c-bet OTF. I can see a couple of advantage of c-bet though:
1) we don't have any value. Don't mind to pick up the pot right now
2) V has several drawing hands in his range. Like 87o that V actually held. We don't want these draws to see the turn card for free.

* Just a hint is enough. Sarcastic insulting or contemptuous comments are not welcomed!!

Why wouldn't he?

to build up the pot, to keep opponent in the game, to let opponent bet on later streets.

AQ does have showdown value, so checking controls the pot size and allows us to get closer to showdown. If we cbet 100% of the time, we are betting too often. So most of the hands we bet should be stuff with no equity where we won't win a showdown or stuff where we want to play big pots. Marginal showdown value hands would make up a big part of our check back range.

This flop is one that hits the range of a BB defender fairly often.

Thanks for sending the explanation, that's one of the best responses I ever received on 2p2.

This is big bet poker, you're deep, dynamic board, pop underbluffs later streets, he needs value combos to balance his plentiful bluff candidates, he's oop, sets are good.

Yeah, sorry I forgot to add the BI amount in the title, but the first message mentions that it's just $22 BI that is not so big...mid in the best case...I was told multiple times in this very same forum that I should not focus too much on balancing, GTO and stuff in these games..Personally I agree that it's a great idea to x/r both of value and bluffs to balance sh*t out, esp when taking V's tendencies into account..but I am not sure if opponents in this BI level are doing the same...BTW - we discussed this strategy in great details in another thread