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BvB spot w/A2 two tables left in 800p field. BvB spot w/A2 two tables left in 800p field.

06-11-2018 , 02:58 PM
Don't have the HH with me. We are the tournament short stack w/10bb almost exactly.. 299k (15/30k)

There's a few other stacks in the 300-450k area..

w/15 left, we are now guaranteed 320$ instead of $190, and pays the next 5 places the same.

1st place is 7.4k (This is an 11$ rebuy w/roughly 800 player field)


Folds to SB who seems to have been a little overly active, but haven't seen anything too crazy really.. just cheering people on when they are taking the more 'active' roles in hands...

He opens to 110k into us, and we have A2o.
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06-11-2018 , 05:33 PM
Ship it.
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06-12-2018 , 05:09 AM
This is a shove, you're in almost last place and you just laddered up, there's less ICM.

The 3.5x raise might look strong, but recreationals do just raise like that with random hands like K5o so you should just get it in. You'll also have fold equity once in a blue moon.
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06-12-2018 , 05:54 PM
I'm still not sure. I feel like just the raise is a little more polarizing towards relatively strong hands. I feel like big pairs more likely raise small, or limp/reraise... but then that 5-20% ish range of hands or stronger aces/pairs, and broadways might lean this way towards value intending to always call a shove.

Whereas weak aces, low pairs, and/or the remainder of his weaker playable range shoves. That 20-50%+ range of hands since w/10bb effective they are probably no longer raise-folding, so they are looking to maximize their FE.

And although we did lock up another spot for a few... there's so much more value in the final table... Of course we need to accumulate chips for this - just feels like were in such a bad spot vs. a 20% range... and actually if you throw in A2 vs. 50% range we are still an underdog.
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06-12-2018 , 07:59 PM
+ev shove sorry you lost
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06-13-2018 , 01:09 PM
Why?
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06-17-2018 , 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by akashra777
I'm still not sure. I feel like just the raise is a little more polarizing towards relatively strong hands. I feel like big pairs more likely raise small, or limp/reraise... but then that 5-20% ish range of hands or stronger aces/pairs, and broadways might lean this way towards value intending to always call a shove.

Whereas weak aces, low pairs, and/or the remainder of his weaker playable range shoves. That 20-50%+ range of hands since w/10bb effective they are probably no longer raise-folding, so they are looking to maximize their FE.

And although we did lock up another spot for a few... there's so much more value in the final table... Of course we need to accumulate chips for this - just feels like were in such a bad spot vs. a 20% range... and actually if you throw in A2 vs. 50% range we are still an underdog.
Versus this range we're 44% (which are hands between top 5-25% of hands): 88-22, ATs-A2s, KJs-K8s, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, AQo-A9o, KTo+, QTo+, JTo

Unless you have specific reads about the SB that their range is super tight I can't see how this is a bad shove.
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06-19-2018 , 07:20 AM
It's ok to fold given your suspicions about his range composition . His sizing might be a big giveaway as a lot of recs use extremely face up sizing seemingly oblivious to the fact that you might notice Or they don't care because they are overly concerned with winning the hand and not running into trouble . So they play AKo like this and are satisfied if you fold or shove but they don't want you to call and then get a bad flop for AK because they suck and will prob just panic shove the flop..
So yeh I wouldn't hate to fold A2o . There is ICM because even though you're the short stack you are still deep in a good tourney and you might want to pick your spots rather than calling off on a thin edge . It's quite good to be patient with a shortstack when deep . You want an edge you don't want to be taking every +cev spot going
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