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Old 02-20-2018, 09:35 AM   #1
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Bubble Spot At The 109$ Mega Deep - 888Poker

Hello everyone.

I found myself in what i say an interesting spot yesterday.
At the beginning of the hand we are 17/30 left with 27 ITM.
Min cash is 242$ 1st place is 4900$ just for your information.

***** Hand History for Game 1111111111 ***** (Pacific)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, February 20, 12:17:09 ET 2018
Table 118021242 table 4 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Seat 2: Player2 ( 100787 ) - VPIP: 22, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 0.0, Hands: 50
Seat 3: Player3 ( 55709 ) - VPIP: 17, PFR: 11, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 94
Seat 4: Player4 ( 30354 ) - VPIP: 20, PFR: 16, 3B: 6, AF: 0.0, Hands: 45
Seat 6: Player6 ( 98551 ) - VPIP: 28, PFR: 21, 3B: 9, AF: 2.3, Hands: 128
Seat 7: Hero ( 51891 ) - VPIP: 18, PFR: 13, 3B: 5, AF: 3.2, Hands: 4642
Seat 9: Player9 ( 22878 ) - VPIP: 14, PFR: 10, 3B: 2, AF: 1.5, Hands: 109
Seat 10: Player10 ( 128270 ) - VPIP: 44, PFR: 32, 3B: 27, AF: 2.3, Hands: 34
Player9 posts ante of [250].
Player3 posts ante of [250].
Hero posts ante of [250].
Player4 posts ante of [250].
Player2 posts ante of [250].
Player6 posts ante of [250].
Player10 posts ante of [250].
Player2 posts small blind [1000].
Player3 posts big blind [2000].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 8s 8h ]
Player4 folds
Player6 raises [4444]
Hero calls [4444]
Player9 folds
Player10 folds
Player2 raises [16000]
Player3 folds
Player6 folds
Hero raises [47197]
Player2 ...........

I will post results later at the day.

My thought process after the 3bet.
The 3bettor is at SB so the size is 17K total which for my standards looks kinda big for a monster. I quickly sharkscoped him and see him at 80K profits with avg bin 70e so he knows what he is doing.

I remove AA-KK-QQ from his range as i think he will 3bet something around 14-15k but of course i have no history about his sizings.
He is at the top 10 stacks of the field so i clearly see a perfect spot for him to squeeze here.

More than happy to hear your opinion on every action and of course on the final one.
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Old 02-21-2018, 07:44 AM   #2
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Re: Bubble Spot At The 109$ Mega Deep - 888Poker

5% 3bet even if the sample is pretty irrelevant because of it size, V doesnt seem to be a total punter.
His 3bet size and his position (2nd in chips) dont let me think that he s just abusing the shorter stacks.
Him being oop (sb), his range should be even stronger
It is very bad for him to 3bet fold vs your 58k stack having raised to 17k.
If he does that, it is just bad.
IMHO, at best, you are flipping vs his range.
He could have 66,77 but since he dosent want to face a 4b all in with that holding vs the other 100k stack of the table, i doubt we could integrate the small pairs in his range.
I would fold vs his 3bet... i dont think flatting with our stack size is a good idea neither...
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Old 02-21-2018, 06:05 PM   #3
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Re: Bubble Spot At The 109$ Mega Deep - 888Poker

As played, I fold and look for a better spot. By calling the initial open, your plan is to set mine, correct? While your stack affords you the implied odds to make this a +ev play, you are put into these tougher spots when more action develops behind you. So what started as a passive line now has turned aggressive in the face of a re-raise, which doesn't make sense to me. The SB must call only 30k more into a 72k pot, so he's probably not ever folding to your jam, and you're mostly flipping at best(I say mostly because he could have 44-77 here, but he also has all higher pairs and tons of over card combos).

If you're going to play this hand, you may as well play it more aggressively from the start. 3B the hand yourself, and you put yourself in a much better spot. You can more comfortably fold if 4bet. You probably pick up the pot preflop a good % of the time, and the times if folds back to the original raiser and he flats, you have position for the hand post flop and the betting lead.
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Old 02-22-2018, 08:14 AM   #4
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Re: Bubble Spot At The 109$ Mega Deep - 888Poker

Thanks a lot so far for the replies. I will comment later as i need to go now.
The results are the followings.
We can also talk about his side with his hand because i would like to see your thoughts about it aswell

Player2 calls [$34,641]
** Dealing flop ** [ 9h, 4s, Js ]
** Dealing turn ** [ 4d ]
** Dealing river ** [ 7h ]
** Summary **
Player2 shows [ Qs, Kc ]
Hero shows [ 8s, 8h ]
Hero collected [ $111,476 ]
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:10 PM   #5
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Re: Bubble Spot At The 109$ Mega Deep - 888Poker

I think his sizing is perfect givin stacks, positions etc.
Hmm, givin ICM, we should prob just call pre? , but i think just 3bet jamm pre vs loose opener and print.
Don´t really hate the backraise jamm since youre gonna have some slowplayed KK+ in this spot i assume, but i will prob just fold tbh (stupid spot tho)
And yeah his 3bet/c is pretty amitious.
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Old 02-22-2018, 02:23 PM   #6
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Re: Bubble Spot At The 109$ Mega Deep - 888Poker

I guess if you're going to be trapping with KK/AA here sometimes the backraise is fine. Personally prefer to use hands like AJ or KQ as they have better removal to premiums than 88 does.
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