Ok, I can't understand how standard play here can be check/fold...
So you flop TPTK, bet strong on flop and check/fold against one player on turn?? If we're doing this we'll going to be extremely exploitable.
I know that card is not good, but if we check he can bet a huge part of his range (A
x... Kx... Q..., , even his failed straight draws, specially containing any heart (86, J8...), so imo we can't fold this 2,1k pot (plus villain bet) with TPTK.
Now, if we play check/call, we reevaluate on river. If another heart comes, we'll holding a bluff catcher, maybe nothing but A
or bluffs bets if we check. And if
doesn't come, we'll be able to check/call a 1/2 pot maximum bet.
That's not a very good scenario. So, if I don't want to check/fold, and call doesn't like me pretty much... I'd find another way to play.
I think the point is on flop. Wet flop, two opponents, tptk... lot of reasons to protect our hand, and that's what Hero did, bet so large. Ok, maybe this is not the best play, I think everybody here agree with a slightly smaller flop bet...
But, what if we go for a check/raise here? Yeah, there's only one player to act, and if we check a freecard will come a lot of times. That's our risk. But, on the other hand:
-We can earn more money when that player bets. We check/raise and wins the pot right here.
-We clarify the hand. If he calls we can be quite sure that if villains bets turn or river (specially if a draw is completed) we'll be beaten a lot of times. That doesn't occur with our standard bet flop. Villains bet range when Q
comes and we check still contains a lot of hands we beat.
-And, of course, if we plan to check/fold sometimes when
comes on turn, I think it's not so bad idea to take the risk of give freecard sometimes.
Another alternative line:
check/push turn. Very difficult for villain to call with nothing but flush, nut-flush draw or JT with heart. Sets can call too, but if he holds set, it's logical to think that he reraises our flop bet, at this board, when there's another player left to act. Sometimes he can fold his KQ, Q9, and sometimes he can call with A
Q... A
9... A
7...
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Ok, I know this alternative lines can be risky, can be wrong... But I'm sure that as played we can't check/fold turn, imo we'll be losing a lot of money with that play.
Last edited by rsk46; 01-25-2018 at 06:28 AM.