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09-22-2017 , 05:44 AM

Crazy Joe Davola

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Villain is Andy Philachuck (sp?) of Texas with over a million dollars in earnings on Hendon Mob. Very aggro so far and loose. He's new with a 30k starting stack so he just fired another bullet.

BB 1200. He makes it 3k utg and I call with 44 on button and 155 behind. My image is pretty tight but Andy hasn't been at the table long. BB joins us.

3 way flop of 986 two clubs. I check it through.

Turn pairs the 9 and puts up another flush draw. Andy bets 5500 after the bb checks. I think a bit and calls. BB drops.

River 3 and both flush draws miss. He bets 15k and stares me down intently. Would he ever play an overpair in this manner?

Any analysis appreciated.

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09-22-2017 , 06:08 AM

OutPlayU27

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If you range him on overpairs, can you explain your call ott?
What's your range pre and postflop on this spot?
If I'm V I would play the same any 9x.

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Last edited by OutPlayU27; 09-22-2017 at 06:16 AM. Reason: Fold turn ffs

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09-22-2017 , 02:25 PM

jonrubs

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I would fold pre, probably folding turn. If he has a hand like A hi he will be looking to get to a cheap showdown and thats about all you beat.

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09-22-2017 , 03:58 PM

JackyClub

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V only have 30BB on utg, i think even a lag player cannot play too loose in this situation.

over pair is in V's range, but i think V should've check-call the river, so V can seduce a bluff from a missed flush draw, same with A hi

just from a beginner

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09-23-2017 , 02:16 PM

loonybird

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I tried to seduce a bluff ounce but she was having none of that.

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09-23-2017 , 07:24 PM

abombshelter

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Fold pre, fold turn, fold river

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09-23-2017 , 07:35 PM

Soepgroente

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I wanna call river but I'd never get there.

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09-23-2017 , 08:05 PM

Crazy Joe Davola

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Which earlier street would you fold and why?

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09-24-2017 , 03:13 AM

cicakman

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Pre obv. Prolly sigh calling river if I was transported into the spot.

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09-24-2017 , 10:47 AM

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Soepgroente

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Pre and if not pre then on the turn.

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09-24-2017 , 10:49 AM

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Crazy Joe Davola

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Why fold pre?

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09-24-2017 , 01:00 PM

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Soepgroente

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You really don't see the objections for calling pre? We expect our opponent to cbet a good % and we can only continue if we flop a 4 or on some rare flops like 235, 662, etc. We just fold on the flop about 80% of the time, it's not a moneymaker. If it is somehow just barely +cEV because of reading skills or whatever we still don't want to call because the spot is not +EV enough.

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09-24-2017 , 02:51 PM

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OutPlayU27

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Originally Posted by Soepgroente

+1
Also, what do we beat otr ? JTs ? Not to mention we have some 9x that x/b flop.

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Last edited by OutPlayU27; 09-24-2017 at 02:53 PM. Reason: Like others mentioned, I will not get to the river...

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09-24-2017 , 06:53 PM

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cicakman

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Originally Posted by Crazy Joe Davola

Why fold pre?

Cause a 25bb stack opened utg. At least 3b gii if you want to continue and think he's just spazzing and tilting during reentry. Not saying that's what I'd do

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