not much info on villain, 17/11, 10% 3bet over 92 hands. doesn't play alot but has two 6-digit winnings and several 5-digit winnings on mid-hi stakes over 2000 mtts.

is he stacking off with Ahxh there or are there any hands that beat us?

Snap call. Hero most likely has AJ+, flush draw, the rare 55/44, or overpair. Don't think V has Ahxh, but possible. Sucks you do not have the Kh, but I like your chances here. I mean, seriously, what hands are you truly worried about? AA, 44, and 55. And, I highly doubt he has 55/44 from initial action. All in all, call, GII good, and barf when V shows AQ and donks out on you OTR. You're way ahead of most of V's range.

I think this is a fold against a good regular and a call against a random bad player. A good regular will rightly put your 3betting range as super tight here, {AK,JJ}. So against that range you either have an overpair or the 2 highest overcards with a gutshot....ie hands that are likely to get it in on this flop. Therefore good winning players will only raise this flop with 2pair+, and just call their draws.
Randoms just always put u on AK so they could be shipping here with draws or overpair type hands.

It's funny that he's neither of these 2 groups, I guess you'd call him a winning random. But still with 2 six fig scores u gotta asssume he is good so I fold.

well he is definetely competent. i doubt he's setmining here. i mean my perceived range is pretty strong and even AA will mostly 4b pre then.

i think its a call. if he check shoved all in on the flop here with a hand better than pocket KK, then u just gotta take it on the chin and move on.

almost always a flush draw or a 66/77+ type hands... even 33 play.....in these sort of spots its almost always the villain misreading your hand "putting you on AK" or getting stubborn while having enough equity with a medium hand to shove like this over your cbet bluffs and weaker value hands.

i honestly dont feel that its even that close of a spot without reads.

I'd call it.

OP, not sure why you think he can't be setmining here?

wrong odds pre?

Any chance this dude plays 66-QQ, Ax of hearts the same way???

If he is a really good player, what it seems he is for the results you pointed, I think it should be a fold... a great player surely knows your range is full of overpairs, and for sure he doesnt expect a random to fold it, so he certainly has you beat.

Said that, I think I couldnt resist and still call it in game...

snap

He doesnt have the right odds pre, but given how strong is our range in general in this spot, he could pretty easily call any PP and setmine knowing that he will stack us pretty often when he hits cuz of our nutted range.

Noone in *calling pre camp* vs a good player who can read ranges and stuff? Not sure how good it is in that spot cuz we are not sure if the villian is good, or not, but what about if we recognize the guy and we know he is pretty good?

On the flop I think im calling vs an unknown and would really level myself too much over pokerprolabs results.

We still bet the flop with AK and he still have JJ/QQ, that he might decide to shove for protection, also we dont block any FD combos + if he is sometimes playing 33(?) this way, this is a clear call.