Big Live Tournament - All In Bluffing on River
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 3
The tournament is the Sunday Storm of the WSOP in Rio de Janeiro with buy in of 800 reais (200 dollars) and a prize of 1 million reais (~ 280 thousand dollars). Classification Day and Blinds 200/400. The Villain is young player
I think the call on turn was problably bad and i know i am losing most of the time. But i decide the all in on river because i think i made him fold hands like A7; K7; Q7; J7; 88; 99; 1010 and hands like 57 are in my big blind range ; while checking i only win 46 and tie something like 27. He thought a lot and told me that he almost folded his hand
What do you think about this play?
Table Information
VILLAIN: seat 1 (17,000)Small Blind
HERO 67 0ff suited (Hero): seat 2 (20,000)Big Blind
Seat3: seat 3 (~30.000)
Seat4: seat 4 (~30.000)
Seat5: seat 5 (~30.000)
Seat6: seat 6 (~30.000)
Seat7: seat 7 (~30.000)
Seat8: seat 8 (~30.000)
Seat9: seat 9 (~30.000) Dealer
Preflop (Pot:600)
seat 3 FOLD
seat 4 RAISE $800
seat 5 FOLD
seat 6 CALL
seat 7 FOLD
seat 8 FOLD
seat 9 CALL
VILLAIN 1 CALL
HERO 2 CALL
Flop (Pot: $2,200)
2h5d7s
VILLAIN BET $2,500
HERO CALL
seat 4 FOLD
seat 6 FOLD
seat 9 FOLD
Turn (Pot: $7,200.00)
2h5d7s 5c
VILLAIN BET $4,300
HERO CALL
River (Pot: $15,800)
2h5d7s 5c 10d
seat 1 CHECK
HERO ALL-IN $12,800
VILLAIN CALL
Showdown:
2d2s (Full House)
VILLAIN wins
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 10,007
I dont think you're ever getting any of those hands to fold on that board run out. IMO you're only folding out hands you roughly beat like a Lower pp and ace high. Anyway remember small pots for small hands and big pots for big hands. This is a big pot for a small hand so yes fold turn. As played you could block bet fold river. But you shouldn't be there in the first place. Also if you're gonna go broke with just a meh pair you should fold pre.
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,933
The villain overbets the pot on the flop? I honestly think it's ok to just pitch it here. They bet pot on the flop with 5 people in the hand and you have 3 other players behind you.
I don't understand why you are shoving the river here? as nonsimplesimon said, you are really only going to get him to fold hands that you already beat 86, 64, etc. Don't you think in the SB that 57 is in the villains range here too?
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 1,429
Is the preflop action right? Five players call and the pot is $2200?
Anyway, this is a weird hand. I don't necessarily hate the flop call, I do think with five players in the hand and a big bet we can justify folding our worst 7x here, especially when we're blocking 86 and 64. Certainly we can fold turn for that same reason.
If you're donk jamming river, what hands are you doing it with as a bluff and what hands are you do it with for value?
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,548
Flop is a VERY easy fold. Villain donks into 4 players and we have the worst position. Even raising would be better than flatting here imo (not implying that raising is good)
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 370
I think you have the right idea. You're thinking about the situation really well on the river - opponent is likely checking with a lot of hands he will feel very uncomfortable with if you jam on him. The fact that he almost folded a full house confirms this. From villain's perspective, most decent players in your shoes will be folding a 5 on the flop and folding straight draws on the turn, so what bluffs/worse value do you have? Not much at all. So imo all-in on the river is by far the best move you could have made in that spot.
The mistake in the hand is how we got to this river. When someone leads really big oop into 4/5 players on the flop like this, there's gonna be a lot more 2 pair+ hands and a lot fewer 1 pair hands in his range than you think. So we should just fold the flop... we also have multiple players behind us who can have us beat as well.
So although I still feel the river bluff is good, there are probably a lot fewer weak hands in his range than you thought. May only be 88/99 sometimes and once in a while A7.