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02-16-2018 , 08:12 PM
PokerStars - 40000/80000 Ante 10000 NL - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 35.33 BB28/19-8
BB: 31.9 BB (VPIP: 35.56, PFR: 24.41, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 136)
CO: 21.31 BB (VPIP: 36.45, PFR: 25.96, 3Bet Preflop: 16.33, Hands: 107)
BTN: 71.03 BB (VPIP: 22.47, PFR: 18.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.41, Hands: 231)

4 players post ante of 0 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 31.78 BB and is all-in, Hero?

Villain is Regular. Which means Skilllvl on SScope 79.
For sure capable opponent.

The table dynamic was pretty LAG. The CO was most aggressive player.
And all winnning players and had all pretty good clue what they where doin.
I was for sure the least xp´d player but wasnt hestitaded by any means.

Hero (sb) vs V (bb)
i think he had image of hero in terms of some out of line here and there. Tricky if the situation favors it.
So far i completed the most SB´s and i would split ranges in:
limp - call /raise
raise - calls / folds/ jam.

AJo doesnt flop too well i think so a raise call is nice solution. But decided to limp while pretty aggressive dynamic as well as limp / Jam shouldnt be the worst punt.
[IMG] https://imgur.com/QpgU4Ga [/IMG]

so do you think this range is accurate?
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02-16-2018 , 08:47 PM
I can't see V doing this with anything you aren't at least flipping with. Feels like a call unless you specifically think he's doing this as some third level value shove trying to get you to do something stupid against the top end of his range.
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02-16-2018 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HawkesDave
I can't see V doing this with anything you aren't at least flipping with. Feels like a call unless you specifically think he's doing this as some third level value shove trying to get you to do something stupid against the top end of his range.
third lvl value would mean JJ or AQ i guess but it feels like he would let go of a decent amount of EV....

HRC says AJo is slighly negative.

and if we gave him somethin like this:
[IMG] https://imgur.com/a/zcDGc [/IMG]

AKo becomes even a fold thus +0.01
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02-17-2018 , 09:53 PM
Really hate limping w/ AJo here 4 handed. Take blinds and antes most of the time with a hand that doesn't flop particularly well. I guess you are calling now, it may have worked to where you've baited him into jamming wide bc you wanted to see a flop with sc's
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02-20-2018 , 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SHIP_DAT
Really hate limping w/ AJo here 4 handed. Take blinds and antes most of the time with a hand that doesn't flop particularly well. I guess you are calling now, it may have worked to where you've baited him into jamming wide bc you wanted to see a flop with sc's
Yeah ur right limpin this hand isnt that great oop to play, and i called he did got 77, and luckyly i won
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02-20-2018 , 12:54 PM
Definitely prefer raising pre, as played would call off but dislike the spot a lot. Good thing is you`ll rarely run into TT+/AK if ever
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02-20-2018 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LOLCh1pPorn
Definitely prefer raising pre, as played would call off but dislike the spot a lot. Good thing is you`ll rarely run into TT+/AK if ever
i called as well, but apperently its -ev
if i would have raised he would anyways had shoved i guess and it would be ruff to call i think it would become even more of a fold i think
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02-21-2018 , 07:35 AM
You being 2nd in chips atm, it is surely a potential icm disaster spot.
I agree with the ones saying that it is a sigh call because you ll almost never be facing 101+ and AQ+
But still pretty bad feeling having to call a +30biggs jam when you ve invested a single blind (+ the ante).
One question though, how could your AJ0 call be slightly -EV although the range you gave him seems pretty accurate and contains all the small pairs and the QJss +??
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02-22-2018 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by swissodds
You being 2nd in chips atm, it is surely a potential icm disaster spot.
I agree with the ones saying that it is a sigh call because you ll almost never be facing 101+ and AQ+
But still pretty bad feeling having to call a +30biggs jam when you ve invested a single blind (+ the ante).
One question though, how could your AJ0 call be slightly -EV although the range you gave him seems pretty accurate and contains all the small pairs and the QJss +??
bec it seems only accurate imo, and its little optimistic range even with that its -0.45
with a rly persimistic range -look the pic in third comment- even AKo becomes a fold
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02-22-2018 , 01:45 PM
Without knowing the payouts, hard to say what´s best.
I´ll prob fold and berate him in the chat.
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02-23-2018 , 12:07 AM
just because we understand icm don't automatically assume your opponents do. In terms of hand strength 4 ways AJ we are at the top of our range generally speaking. If I limped here I would to induce so it doesn't make sense to fold now.. mixing up limps and raises sb-bb is generally good
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02-23-2018 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
just because we understand icm don't automatically assume your opponents do. In terms of hand strength 4 ways AJ we are at the top of our range generally speaking. If I limped here I would to induce so it doesn't make sense to fold now.. mixing up limps and raises sb-bb is generally good
+1
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02-24-2018 , 06:27 PM
I don't mind having a 100% limping strategy in the small blind.

If villain had been doing this repeatedly I can see calling being reasonable. Otherwise, I get that limp/folding seems weak but it is for 30BB+ with a shorter stack at the table and it's probably at best break even.
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02-25-2018 , 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OutPlayU27
Without knowing the payouts, hard to say what´s best.
I´ll prob fold and berate him in the chat.
7k
5k
3.5k
2.5k
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02-25-2018 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
just because we understand icm don't automatically assume your opponents do. In terms of hand strength 4 ways AJ we are at the top of our range generally speaking. If I limped here I would to induce so it doesn't make sense to fold now.. mixing up limps and raises sb-bb is generally good
i am pretty sure he does he is very capable skillevl on sharkscope 79 decent indicator....he had decent profit 160k in euro, over 100 k games

raise call wouldnt be same icm pressure? think tho
his range i think for 3b jam would be a little stronger because it would include more TT and some JJ, all AQ...
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