Im pretty sure there were 9 people left, not 7, not sure why it shows 7. The 1st payjump is for some reason really small also, like 250 dollars, 8th to 7th it was already like 750 payjump.
Should we be flatting anything here or its rejam or fold with these stacksizes?

PokerStars - 900/1800 Ante 225 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 35,434 (VPIP: 23.87, PFR: 12.68, 3Bet Preflop: 3.95, Hands: 419)
BB: 88,679 (VPIP: 31.17, PFR: 24.68, 3Bet Preflop: 15.15, Hands: 78)
UTG: 4,860 (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 16.40, 3Bet Preflop: 6.99, Hands: 839)
Hero (UTG+1): 40,711
MP: 78,319 (VPIP: 21.92, PFR: 13.73, 3Bet Preflop: 12.31, Hands: 295)
CO: 94,413 (VPIP: 23.26, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 7.45, Hands: 215)
BTN: 24,097 (VPIP: 34.61, PFR: 22.81, 3Bet Preflop: 7.91, Hands: 896)

7 players post ante of 225, SB posts SB 900, BB posts BB 1,800

Pre Flop: (pot: 4,275) Hero has 7 7

UTG raises to 4,635 and is all-in

Seems like a fold in UTG1 and a jam BTN+

A little too much chance you’re flipping at best against UTG (which is fine) but losing EV to every range behind which will call at least JJ/AK

UTG should be jamming about 65% of hands according to nash, so well ahead of that range.

Would be interesting to see your stats so to have an idea of your image at the table.

But call shows enough strenght so that you won't be raised without a premium, especially being UTG+1, it can rep Aces or Kings too

Do you know what icmizer is saying?

On first glance it looks like a flat call/re-eval, as mentioned we can have AA,KK when we do this so our range is somewhat protected

I would lean towards a fold but if table wasn't very aggressive or there was a history of multiple calls when a short stack was all-in, I might call.

To raise here to isolate vs UTG where we are likely <50% to win seems pointless. Best case we are HU vs a range that is ahead of us. Worst case we are OOP vs hands that have great equity against us. Or, we are forced to fold to a 4-bet (which would be extremely strong).

This seems like a pretty standard flat and honestly we should have almost zero raises here vs UTG.

Imagine folding here.

yeah what the hell is going on -- call

If you just flat your range and it folds to the BB, dont u expect any decent player to just isojam very wide or due to the small payjump, we can flat and call the jam pretty wide aswell?

I guess here's some food for thought. I'll list some options below and tell you what I think is best.

Jamming for protection to win 4.75bb with a hand like 77 seems kinda over the top for me considering the likelihood of laddering here is so high. You're dead to anyone rejamming. I also think there is a good chance someone behind you in later position could look the UTG+1 player up and peel for 2.5bb to take the player out if you decided to fold... High chance of laddering this hand if you folded.

Flatting here is bleh, but should someone iso behind you i would lay it down. I'm ok risking 2.5 bb flatting here and folding should someone behind iso jam. Oh well...

Should you flat and go multi-ways to the flop I would be very careful and play the hand with caution and be very wary of board textures with 10's+... Taking a check call approach on the flop is ok on safe board textures with the intention of folding most turns and rivers. The problem I see with leading is that should you lead on a board like 2,5,8r or 6,4,3r or 8,4,10r, (these a boards I could see leading on for equity protection, these are boards that most likely miss late position calling ranges) is that you have to asses if villain in LP will believe you and not float. If villain can find a float here, turns and rivers can be interesting should more over cards come. Check folding should Villain bet turns or rivers is the way to go. You're also betting into a dry side pot...
Best case scenario is you check it all the way down and you win.
Second best scenario is that you check it down and you lose but villain gets the KO and you all ladder up and you don't lose your stack.
Third best is that you check it all the way down, UTG+1 wins but you again YOU DON'T LOSE YOUR STACK....

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!!!

You can also raise pre as well to iso, and fold to a jam... The problem with this is raising enough to not be completely exploited should you fold. In a spot like this particularly, its going to be RARE. The point of raising here is simply to get folds from hands that would otherwise flat the 2.5 bb and see a flop. A raise to $9000 here is ok. You're raising to 5bb and protecting yourself against flatting ranges. Should you get jammed on, you're left with 17bb which is ok. You have 41% equity 3 handed, against UTG+1's shoving range and basic flatting range in LP. Opening to 5bb here is ok to clear some of that equity up... You have roughly 57.30% or more equity against UTG+1's jamming range should your 5bb raise "get through."


So... Of all these options... Personally, I think raising to 5bb and folding to a jam is best. Your raise allows you to clear up equity that calling ranges have against you.

Think of it this way...

You have 25% equity if you CALLED against a range that JAMMED OVER your 5bb open, 3-way all in...

You have 21% equity against a range that would call your 22 bb open jam, 3-way all in...

So if opening to 5bb here accomplishes pretty much the same thing (in terms of polarizing ranges) as open jamming 22 bb but still allows us the option of folding to a jam from a villain behind and leaves us with 17bb and a higher % to ladder up, I'd say do that...

Open to 5bb and fold to a jam.

Hope this helped a little.

no? why?

UTG1 is not a mess about flat spot.

77 should/would be the stone bottom of an uncapped range. Players behind would be playing with fire.

Since Im pretty sure the large majority of people in this UTG plus 1 ICM spot will be reshoving their 9 9-J J and A K at this stackdepth, so the flatting/clickback ISOing range will be folding to jams a lot.

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Competent players should understand that a flat of a UTG open in UTG+1 should be very strong and act accordingly. If we do get ISO jammed this should be far enough down in our range that it's a reasonable fold vs. most of the field.

This is also why we should really not have that many raises here. We want to protect our flat range with strong hands that can easily call off if someone decides to squeeze.