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BBuilder 109. Big stack vs big stack. BBuilder 109. Big stack vs big stack.

11-09-2017 , 10:34 PM
PokerStars - 300/600 Ante 90 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 122.01 BB
CO: 21.8 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BTN: 36.21 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
SB: 20.27 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 95.49 BB
UTG: 24.74 BB (VPIP: 12.70, PFR: 11.86, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 63)
UTG+1: 28.19 BB
MP: 117.35 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP+1: 48.08 BB (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

9 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.85 BB) Hero has 7 6

fold, fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1 BB

Flop: (5.85 BB, 2 players) 8 3 K
Hero checks, MP bets 2 BB, Hero raises to 6.22 BB, MP calls 4.22 BB

Turn: (18.29 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 8.78 BB, MP calls 8.78 BB

River: (35.84 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, MP bets 29.5 BB,
Spoiler:
fold

MP wins 35.84 BB


Did got a decent bountie so if he got monster he would be more inclient to go for big pot.


Villain pretty aggressive and active Regular.

otf
i think with strong fdraws we can just call and dont need to think about equity denial that much whereas we got here only 7 high therefore its nice to pick up the pot right here vs some garbage hands he bets. GTO wise he shouldnt bet here hands like QJ without a heart or AxXx. therefore idk how much this theory is viable.
we will x/r hands here like K8, i defend also 83s. with sets we raise also so we gotta have to have some flushdraws here to raise. Do we pick only the strong ones or weak ones? i remember watching tonkaaa he lost a pot while a villain def bb with 53s and got on river his flush draw arrived and tonkaaa claimed he could or should raise flop to possible take it right down there....therefore i raised....

ott
clear value bet, dont think much higher we wanna give him decent prize.

otr
he bets 29.5 into 36 bb so need to be right 31 percent.

value combos: KxQh, KxJh,KxTh, and AxQh, AxJh. Qjhh, QThh, JThh 8 combos
bluff combos KxQx are 6 x 3 (KxJx,...)= 18 combos

8 vs 18 combos...equals 1 to 2.25 value vs bluff - so its profitable call. am i wrong?
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11-10-2017 , 12:40 AM
Pretty sure flop is x/c don't think you need x/r range on k38 when defending bb just gonna be hard to find value combos
So I like x /c flop and then you can do some stuff on turns
As played idk think it's probably tough for villain not to have a good heart here would think black cards do a lot of folding
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11-10-2017 , 08:05 AM
Yes the Qhx/Jhx can be in villains range easily and there is only 1 card that villain can be betting for value that we beat, the 5h. So as played I'm folding the river too.
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11-10-2017 , 11:04 AM
i find it weak to not have x/r on flop...and can create for sure one....sure its diff without straight draw possibilities cuts down the combos ... but there is a draw...so we got some....AhXx...some 5h4h...and K8 and 83 suited and 33 ...is decent range
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11-10-2017 , 11:20 AM
block bet/semi bluff river
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11-10-2017 , 01:11 PM
whats the worst hand you would vbet ott?
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11-10-2017 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Pretty sure flop is x/c don't think you need x/r range on k38 when defending bb just gonna be hard to find value combos
KQ is a value combo

Put this hand into large turn sizing
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11-10-2017 , 02:55 PM
sure but kq isn't getting played as a pure x/r it's def a mix. I'd say kq is leaning pretty heavily towards xc
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11-10-2017 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky.luke
value combos: KxQh, KxJh,KxTh, and AxQh, AxJh. Qjhh, QThh, JThh 8 combos
bluff combos KxQx are 6 x 3 (KxJx,...)= 18 combos
Look at the river sizing. It's nuts or nothing. Not a T high flush. Secondly, how do you work out his bluff combos? You just assume that he will bet all his Kx hands as a bluff, including the ones with hearts in them? Don't breakdown combos like this, it'll give you completely pointless results.
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11-10-2017 , 06:08 PM
And yeah you really should be xc these kind of flops.
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11-11-2017 , 01:58 AM
i think IF you are going to cr flop you have to cr heavier unless you have a fairly wide cr range here (in which as played seems fine (?))

otherwise cc and play the turn
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11-11-2017 , 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Shortfuse
Look at the river sizing. It's nuts or nothing. Not a T high flush. Secondly, how do you work out his bluff combos? You just assume that he will bet all his Kx hands as a bluff, including the ones with hearts in them? Don't breakdown combos like this, it'll give you completely pointless results.
yeah true missed the polar bet...
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11-11-2017 , 09:54 PM
I think c/r and c/c are fine.

As long as you aren’t raising every flush draw.

I think personally I wouldn’t have a c/r range as you never have AA, AK or KK here.

As played I make the turn bigger. 2/3 pot at least.

On the river it’s close but I would fold.

Think KxQh, KxJh are most likely hands here
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11-13-2017 , 05:18 PM
I don't think river is close, it's a fold. Do you really expect him to turn KQo into a bluff here? Because that's basically his entire possible bluffing range.
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