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Wrong "bet for protection"? Wrong "bet for protection"?

03-23-2019 , 06:34 AM
Hi guys

V is 18/10 on 44 hands; pretty aggro stats on all streets althought sample is small, of course

Whats the best play OTT? I bet because i am scared of a lot of cards OTR and also because i can get some value of some KJ, KQ K9 but perhaps it was a mistake?

    Poker Stars, $4.50 Buy-in (50/100 blinds, 10 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 11,561 (115.6 bb)
    BB: 10,000 (100 bb)
    UTG+2: 29,029 (290.3 bb)
    MP1: 9,990 (99.9 bb)
    MP2: 11,606 (116.1 bb)
    MP3: 8,509 (85.1 bb)
    Hero (CO): 11,547 (115.5 bb)
    BTN: 10,962 (109.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T K
    2 folds, MP2 raises to 200, MP3 calls 200, Hero calls 200, 2 folds, BB calls 100

    Flop: (930) 7 9 T (4 players)
    BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets 620, BB calls 620, 2 folds

    Turn: (2,170) K (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 1,447, BB raises to 9,170 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 5,064 pot
    Final Board: 7 9 T K
    BB mucked and won 5,064 (2,787 net)
    Hero mucked T K and lost (-2,277 net)
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    03-23-2019 , 09:23 AM
    Doesn't seem like a great hand to call with pre, MP2 will have you dominated a lot of the time here.

    That being said, this flop really is not that great for you. You really shouldn't be calling on the flop to try to hit top pair here.
    Maybe betting is fine, maybe it's not, you've put yourself in a though spot here by calling pre.

    The turn changes this, this now becomes a clear bet most of the time for you.

    BB is going to be very wide here. He could be doing this with a lot of hands you're still ahaid of, like 89s, T9, 97, K9, K7, Axs, Kxs as a value bet or semi bluff for the straight and/or flush draw.

    There's only a few hands that have you beat here: QJ, 77, 99, TT (is he really just calling with 99 & TT pre?)

    You should be folding around 30/40% of your range here.
    I think that makes this a call.
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    03-23-2019 , 03:44 PM
    Bet/Call turn.
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    03-25-2019 , 06:33 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Yeodan
    Doesn't seem like a great hand to call with pre, MP2 will have you dominated a lot of the time here.

    That being said, this flop really is not that great for you. You really shouldn't be calling on the flop to try to hit top pair here.
    Maybe betting is fine, maybe it's not, you've put yourself in a though spot here by calling pre.

    The turn changes this, this now becomes a clear bet most of the time for you.

    BB is going to be very wide here. He could be doing this with a lot of hands you're still ahaid of, like 89s, T9, 97, K9, K7, Axs, Kxs as a value bet or semi bluff for the straight and/or flush draw.

    There's only a few hands that have you beat here: QJ, 77, 99, TT (is he really just calling with 99 & TT pre?)

    You should be folding around 30/40% of your range here.
    I think that makes this a call.
    Uummm lot of times when i am deep enough i like to call/overcall this kind of hands (suited and with str8 draw posibilities) on the BTN trying to flop some nice draw AND looking for some weakness in villains to try to steal the pot somewhere in the hand...haha not sure if this line of thinking is right

    As for the turn i didnīt take into account some of the combos you mention : K7 and Axs and Kxs..do people really C/R this kind of stuff OTT? Wow...my first thought was "he hit his str8 OTF or he had a set OTF and he is trying to get value and protect it from a dangerous board"
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    03-25-2019 , 07:23 PM
    I'd either lower the size of the bet on the turn or check call.
    Curious which tournament is this on stars? $4.50 with 10k stacks?
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    03-26-2019 , 06:29 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by blank0909
    I'd either lower the size of the bet on the turn or check call.
    Curious which tournament is this on stars? $4.50 with 10k stacks?
    Think it was SuperStack 5 eur....yeah, you begin really deep this MTT
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