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08-04-2020 , 12:43 PM

antolyalex

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 8

Good morning to all.
I have a question about a hand i just lost.

$22 dollars buy-in, pokerstars room, 27 players left. 26 jump pay
Levels: 3.5K/7K ante 700
Pockets 77 in hand, me(BB):245K
all fold
Villian(CO):175K OR x2
all fold
me re- raise to All in.
Is mine a good move?
I mean for the fase of tournament?
for the ICM?
etc...?

villian shows AK'hs
board:
JhTd6d
and then **** hapens jaja... Kc 8d

I need a really professional analysis please.,.,
(I'm stuck in the stages leading up to the final table, yesterday I also fell into the Hot $ 27, 14th place
pocket three SB, with 11BB, CO push to all in, with 14BB)
me: snap call.
good move here too?

Last edited by antolyalex; 08-04-2020 at 12:49 PM.

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08-04-2020 , 12:50 PM

Bubblebust

adept

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 830

This is a situation with around 35 bbs that's always difficult for me. With deeper stacks your hand obviously plays better as a defend -- or a 3! vs. late position open with really deep stacks (although I usually just defend). With a short stack, it's an obvious shove. But these middling stacks are tough. I think with 35 bbs, I just defend. And given ICM here, I think that should futher warrant a defend (although you have more fe with the ICM pressure you exert).

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08-04-2020 , 04:32 PM

Mr Rick

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Originally Posted by Bubblebust

This is a situation with around 35 bbs that's always difficult for me. With deeper stacks your hand obviously plays better as a defend -- or a 3! vs. late position open with really deep stacks (although I usually just defend). With a short stack, it's an obvious shove. But these middling stacks are tough. I think with 35 bbs, I just defend. And given ICM here, I think that should futher warrant a defend (although you have more fe with the ICM pressure you exert).

Effective stack size is 25 bb's.

I think this is a clear shove.

Even though he has AK you got it in good. While I don't think villain folds AQ/AJ he probably folds all other Ax hands, and non-pair hands with no A. In theory you may also get 88/99 to fold.

The other thing you accomplish is not playing the hand OOP.

Unless Villain has shown to be very tight raising LP I would do this every time.

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08-04-2020 , 04:43 PM

Bubblebust

adept

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 830

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Originally Posted by Mr Rick

Effective stack size is 25 bb's.

You are right, I need to read more carefully and see we cover V who is at 25 bbs. Agree that's a clear shove.

What is the play at 35 bb effective stacks, though? I think we flat there, though its close.

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08-04-2020 , 06:13 PM

antolyalex

stranger

Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 8

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Originally Posted by Mr Rick

I dont see if player very tight, cause i dont have stats[HUDS] or any tool like HM2, PT4. Just I remember that 5-7 hands OR 2 times, for stil or good cards. Jeje,.
What happend if I see that player is tigh [6 -15]VPIP(I think in this possition.

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08-06-2020 , 01:09 AM

4erkez

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 160

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Originally Posted by antolyalex

You played this hand fine, but you definitely need to get tracker. Also, don't make conclusion on just couple of deep runs. All regs have prolonged period of time when they keep falling at final 2-3 tables. It's frustrating, but it's part of the game.

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08-06-2020 , 05:14 AM

Honigkuchenx

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Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 208

First of all how big is the pay jump? I assume at this stage it should still be fairly irrelevant so ICM should be not too much of a factor. 30bb+ deep I don’t like the shove with pocket 7’s, even if V is opening fairly wide (as he probably should) you are flipping at best when you get called. With such a healthy stack there is no reason to gamble. Just flat the open and reevaluate on the flop. What was the structure like? If it’s a turbo then the shove is probably a bit more reasonable. There is programs like icmizer that can solve that hole situation and tell you the optimal line.

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08-06-2020 , 11:49 AM

Mr Rick

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Originally Posted by Bubblebust

I like flatting here with effective stack of 35bb.

We are set mining but also might have the best hand and we are OOP. So there will be a few times where we want to get to showdown as cheaply as possible.

The reason I don't like 3-betting in the BB with a hand like 77 is that if we make the bet 8x (which would be my standard deep stack 3-bet) then we will have limited post flop options. If we bet about 6x on the flop and get called our next bet would have to be all in. And that will let villain play perfectly against us.

Also if villain 4-bets all in I think we will have to fold with 77. And villain could have AK and folding would be a mistake.

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08-07-2020 , 10:11 AM

mtgalex

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 640

Your hand is not strong enough for value inducing and flatting is just so weak that allow everyone else to raise you with impunity. 3bet shoving is standard play here.

Those small-mid pp are very good shoving candidate to shove and fightback.

And don't 3b/fold, you totally waste the hand strength when you do that.

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08-14-2020 , 09:18 AM

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whatsmymotivation

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Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 7

Standard shove here

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