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Am I Supposed to Bust Here? Am I Supposed to Bust Here?

05-15-2021 , 03:53 PM
No great info on villain here. Fairly standard stats without a lot of history. Am I supposed to go broke here? Thanks

$109 PKOSS event on ACR, still in late reg
650/1300 NL (8 max) - Holdem - 8 players

MP+1: 54.83 BB
CO: 123.04 BB
BTN: 20.06 BB
Hero (SB): 39.55 BB
BB: 42.89 BB
UTG: 80.14 BB
UTG+1: 40.98 BB
MP: 69.03 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.52 BB) Hero has 8h Js
fold, UTG+1 raises to 2.1 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 1.6 BB, fold

Flop : (6.22 BB, 2 players) 8s 2h 6d
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 2.11 BB, Hero calls 2.11 BB

Turn : (10.43 BB, 2 players) Jd
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 6.89 BB, Hero calls 6.89 BB

River : (24.2 BB, 2 players) 5s
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets 29.76 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 28.33 BB and is all-in

Hero shows 8h Js (Two Pair, Jacks and Eights)
(Pre 47%, Flop 2%, Turn 9%)

UTG+1 shows 6s 6h (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 98%, Turn 91%)

UTG+1 wins 80.86 BB
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05-15-2021 , 04:01 PM
Not sure I call pre here out of SB with J8o. Once you call to see flop and turn, you're going to lose much of, if not your entire stack.
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05-15-2021 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubblebust
Not sure I call pre here out of SB with J8o. Once you call to see flop and turn, you're going to lose much of, if not your entire stack.
Sure - I tend to be a bit more agg defensively from blinds, esp with 40+ in BB and here I'm right on that line. Also it's UTG1 open and fold to me, so good chance of being 2 handed to flop.

Main question is .... Is there any way I find a fold on the river? I don't think so but not sure.
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05-15-2021 , 04:20 PM
Unless you have a superhuman read, you can't get away from it.
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05-15-2021 , 06:49 PM
I don’t know if j8 makes it into the sb defend range vs utg. J10s I think gets vpiped but j8 I think it’s probably losing.
Post flop it’s fine
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05-15-2021 , 09:58 PM
J8o is 100% not a defend.
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05-15-2021 , 11:14 PM
I fold J8o from SB. Its a call for me in the BB (usually)

As played I don't see how we get away from this. The only hands that seriously improved on the river are 97s/55. Otherwise we block JJ/88. 22 is unlikely from EP.

Its just bad luck on the turn.
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05-15-2021 , 11:43 PM
J8o is a fold pre here. You are supposed to fold pre here from the small blind. Just going to get smashed oop from the small blind here.

So to answer your question, you are not supposed to go bust here. You fold pre and move to next hand.
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05-17-2021 , 09:03 AM
#FoldPre

Then postflop is fine. A turn c/r jam may even be the play.
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05-17-2021 , 09:48 AM
You shouldn't be defending with junk from the SB. Your SB range should be similar to your BTN range. You are getting better pot odds but are OOP. This is probably a defend from the BB against the small sizing with ante.
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05-17-2021 , 01:55 PM
Supposed to bust, no.

Deserved to bust, yes.
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05-24-2021 , 02:04 AM
Why did you defend J8o? It's waaaaaay out of line against a very very narrow range, let me know your thoughts you might have a good reason to do e.i exploit pop.
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05-24-2021 , 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 2pairsof2s
Supposed to bust, no.

Deserved to bust, yes.
pretty much this.
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05-24-2021 , 11:31 AM
Oh lol I thought it was j8s. That’s like kinda close ish. But yea j8o that’s pretty bad call from sb
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05-26-2021 , 01:26 PM
extremely strong OP moniker to quality of preflop flat synergy ITT
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