888poker $55 buy-in
27 paid, 22-24 remain, $2,400 up top

8,000/16,000 Blinds 2,000 ante No Limit Holdem - ***

Total number of players: 8

Seat 1: HERO( 377,593 )
Seat 2: BUTTON ( 359,654 )
Seat 3: SB ( 1,334,536 )
Seat 4: BB (Villain) ( 333,414 )
Seat 5: UTG ( 232,225 )
Seat 6: UTG +1 ( 251,142 )
Seat 7: MP ( 373,698 )
Seat 9: MP +1( 446,587 )
Seat 10: CO ( 249,726 )

** Dealing down cards ** HERO: A J
HERO raises [32,000]
folds, folds
BB calls [16,000]

** Dealing flop ** [ T, 6, J ]
POT: 88,000
BB checks
HERO bets [36,970]
BB calls [36,970]

** Dealing turn ** [ 5 ]
POT: 161,940
BB checks
HERO bets [110,150]
BB raises [262,444]
HERO ???

I don't have much info on villain because I was just moved to this table.

How did I play the entire hand up to there?
And do you call or fold in that spot as played?

Min raise pre-flop at this stack depth is fine, although 2.5x is probably better, since BB would get lesser odds to call with garbage like 56 or T6. Flop bet of just under 1/2 pot could be a little bigger, but with TPTK inducing a call from lesser jacks and from paired tens is good. Turn seems to be a brick other than bringing a second spade. Here the 3/4 pot bet seems out of line given the rest of the play, so Villain might think that you seem to be suddenly trying to close down the action with a bluff. Your SPR going to the river is not going to be good if he calls.

Villain's range from BB certainly includes JT, 89, JK and 66 and maybe T-6ss. Maybe now 55 and 56 beat you. Hard to see why villain would jam a set here, so perhaps 56 and JT ares really the only hand that makes sense, plus a LOT of hands you beat that would play it like this.

At this spot in the tourney with only 10BB left if you fold, already in the money and a long way from any significant cash, I'd say this is an easy call. If you're beat, then fine. If you win, then you have 40BB and can make a run.

V would have to be a total moron to bluff jam at these stack depths and you’ve raised,bet,bet.Plenty bluffs out there just seems a stupid time to for him to chance it.At deeper stacks I call,here fold

If you think he can do this with KJ,QJ call, if not fold. We still need to have some calls here so fine to fold QJ and call AJ and decide KJ.

Turn brings bdfd which we dont block so he can have some combo draws like 98s,78s and also there is x3 oesd draw possiblities otf

I like your line OP. Now call.

He should be x/r lots of Jx on the flop but the tendency is for people to not x/r enough so he should have tons of Jx on the turn, all of which you obviously beat, most of which wants to GII on the turn on a board that's now become somewhat wet. KQ makes for a good bluff for V to move you off of you weaker A-high barrels.

Also important is, you're getting such a sick price to call it off with KQ and AK I'm not sure you can fold those, so V can and should be jamming pair+FD combos (Ts2s, 6s3s, et al.) and you obviously beat all of those, too.

This is a pretty juicy call unless he's a huge nit.

I would agree with the earlier poster that we raised too small preflop and bet too small on the flop, then too large on the turn.

We can get more value from a weaker BB range with a bigger pf raise and we can definitely get more value from a weaker jack or a ten on the flop. I would like a bet more like 40k pf 60k on the flop then on the turn we can check back to protect our hands like AK, KQ, 98s that are going to cbet this flop a lot of the time. Then we can call off a river bet without thinking about it on most rivers and induce a bluff on most bricks and this board is going to brick a lot of the time.

AP this is pretty gross and I think we've kind of butchered the hand up to this point. I'm expecting we're going to get shown a set or two pair a lot of the time, we've committed half our stack and only have one pair to show for it. That said if we let ourselves get moved off TPTK by ATss, 67ss, or a combo draw or OESD it's a really bad result...

I think table dynamics play a part here. Since we're only at 22bb to start the hand we should be thinking about further on button vs blind dynamics too. Are we at a table where we can shove from the CO or Button a few times and get it through easily and build our stack back up? Seat 3 has a very big chip advantage here, it would be helpful if we have some kind of read on him. Is he playing aggressive in button vs blind situations, or is he playing passive and trying to ride this stack into the final table? How would we have reacted to a 3bet from Seat 3 here, would we be willing to gii with AJhh against him?

If we think Seat 3 is going to be willing to let us steal his blinds a few times in the next couple of orbits I would say fold here and be willing to jam 10bb according to push/fold charts otherwise call it off and hope villain is drawing. I don't think he is going to be shoving worse for value here.

Nh. Call now. Sorry you lost

Top top + ~20bb = broke

Going to say something extremely unpopular.

I've been checking back turn on these types of boards.

Usually will snap river, even if King or Queen. I know I am giving 89, K-Q added equity, as well as K-10 and Q-10.

But, as played, his river bet of $100,000 is probably more likely, in case you ran into a monster.

Once again, it is probably a very unpopular opinion, but I check back a lot with these stack and blind dynamics.

Happier to win a smaller pot and not go broke. If they jam the river, I'm extrermely likely to call the river.

With TPTK and around 20 BBs you know you are playing for stacks... With a min cash already you are willing to play for stacks.... My play will be to raise 2.5-2.7x preflop... With that flop then make a 3/4 bet... so the next bet is a pot size all in bet...
I prefer that all in bet OTR... If you make it OTT I think the only hand that may pay that you beat is KJ... But if you check you may induce a bluff from him OTR.. If he checks OTR... you bet all in and maybe he can see it as a desperate attempt to take down the pot.. and pay you with Jx or even Tx…


You have 20 BB, already ITM and no significant payjump… Just play ABC poker, do not try to get fancy...

There's some weird advice ITT.
We don't have to change our sizing pre, 2x is obv perfectly fine, as is the sizing on the Flop.
Turn is a mandatory bet as well, it's one of our stronger holdings and we'd quickly become unbalanced if we checked here. Like Eggs said, we're actually quite happy to call it off here.

You're playing for stacks anyway when you bet the turn so let's ****ing go!

^^^^ please explain.

How is it unbalanced? We bet here 100% of our range 100% of the time? We're never checking?

Happy to take lines that don’t maximize ev

Fyp

How do you get that it’s a 100% bet or 100% check based off that post
You will have checking and betting ranges on this turn aj is a pure bet

Not sure checking top of range is negative ev I induce more bluffs that way and don't have to play for stacks.

That said, I do run into some players consistently, but most people I haven't played that much against, so balancing my range is far less important. If balancing range is pointless, you are probably correct.

yeah pretty much this. Sure, there are hands we want to check, but AJ is way too strong - and vulnerable - to be put in our checkback-range.

We're quite happy to play for stacks here. And checking doesn't show a negative EV, but betting will show a much higher one.