$550 mtt live, first level 25-50, first or second orbit, 5 handed early.

fast event structure, jumping to 50-100, 100-200, 100-200-25 etc, and only 10K start bank, so an early double has substantial value.

V1: 11k, HJ, local reg winning higher stakes cash player, solid mtt, active early, third successive open to 150.
V2: CO, unknown, 10k
Hero: BB, 10k, local reg mtt and rec cash. early stages LAG style has been successful, especially recently. Knows V1, we've said hi.

V1 150
V2 call
Hero (Ah7h) 3-bet to 650 (80%flat, ~20% 3!, but instinct saying mix it up early)
both Vs call

Pot (1975) Flop Ac 5h 2h

Great flop obviously TP + NFD. V1 is capable of folding A8-AJ to pressure. V2 random, but i sense he wants to get involved. Either player capable of repping an Ax they don't have if allowed.

What's the optimal line here? What story do we want to tell? I elect to c-bet, but can see merits in c/c start to this. I'm c-betting small on so many boards after a 3-bet pre these days that I may have gone into auto-pilot a little.

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Pretty much always flat the first time against a solid Reg and an unknown. As played I would start with a check. If hero is raising this hand at some frequency he should have some naked flush draws that don't have SDV to bet along with AK and AQ.

We can happily call most (all?) flop action and will have much more info on both players holdings after they act on the flop.

If flop checks through I'd lead pretty much any turn for 13-1500

Check/call flop, turn?

Would not be 3-betting this hand.

"V1 Capable of folding A8-AJ" Do we want to turn our hand into a bluff?

At this point I just check/call flop.

I think check call. We block so much of their calling range. + we are uncapped and have big PPs in our range.


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W/e 3bet, stupid sizing, bs %-ages
We already misplayed pre, so let's not misplay flop - check.

Very very poorly played so far....

I don't agree with the general consensus that you misplayed pre flop. Your commentary demonstrates you are a thinking player, this is an interesting line to take especially from the big blind. I think betting or x/c are both fine lines to take post flop. Leaning towards a check for a few reasons. If any of your opponents have an A you are likely behind. Besides A6 all other Ax are ahead of you or have added equity of a gut shot and you should expect these hands to bet if checked to. Checking gives your opponents the chance to bluff with a wiiiiide range of hands and if behind can rarely improve. The only hands that stand to improve above you on the turn are PPs and random small card combo draws. There's really no bad turn card for you, maybe a 3 4 or 5 but how many of those are in your opponents 3bet calling range? Especially at 4.3x 3! size

This. 3b too small and too spewy. Lol made up %'s. Only difference I like leading flop small.

Agree on sizing, I would def sized up a little bit.
Check flop and go from there.
Ok, so we bet , what happened next?


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don't like the 3b, would also bet small, lets build the pot with good equity a non h turn 4 or 3 is really bad for us

Dont like 3b pre at all. If we are going to 'mix it up' w a 7 in our hand at this depth, 87s-76s look a whole lot better.

Think lead small, or check are both fine now

Pre flop is bad just to hop on the train.


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Yeah I'm in the bad pre camp as well, there's no reason to be 3 betting this hand this early vs 2 players OOP. Definitely check-call now.

Flat pre. check call not sure what to do if f draw misses and he bets sizeable on turn

Pre we want a fairly narrow 3-bet range in BB based on stacks and price. If we're ever 3-betting A7s as a bluff we're not defending enough, if it's in our value range we're 3-betting way, way too much. I could maybe see A7s as a 3-bet in the SB sometimes though.

As played I lean towards checking. Even with the nfd I'm not necessarily looking to play for stacks this early in a tournament, and if we bet and c/r we're going to be in a pretty nasty spot. Think my plan would be to check/call flop, possibly turn, and go from there.

We can expo squeeze tons if conditions are right paying no attention to our own range construction.

I don't see any reason why you can't mix in some 3-bets in the BB with A/7 suited. Maybe bet a little more than 3x initial raise, I think I would bet like 725 or 750.

OTF I would usually C-bet, occasionally I would check-call. I believe you are better off betting out than you are checking and relinquishing control of the hand in this spot.

But is level 1 in the BB specifically a spot where we want to do that? As I said, I wouldn't mind this sometimes in the SB with a bigger sizing.

I can be convinced.

All points noted re: 3!? and sizing.

Hero leads flop small 750 and V1 calls, V2 folds

(3450) Turn brick 9c

Hero (8600) ?

At this point I'm thinking primarily about stronger Ax in V range.

x/c obv, don´t see any reason to bet again.

Don't like the smallish c-bet into two villains. I'd bet more but maybe that's a little old school. I've been noticing that guys c-bet smaller lately.

I would check about 100% of turns including the hearts.

I never understand those squeezes from BB, and actually I think is really bad , givin odds we're getting and closing the action, we wanna have good blockers when we do it (MP vs CO vs BU is a different scenario, where IP)
We want them to have 66-88 in their range and 87s etc
Obv it would be nice to have A2-A5s here , but w/e.

Sorry to delayed this thread.
So OP what was the action ott?


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Yeah, I would 3bet with like A2-A5 as a bluff, A7s is also a hand id rather play in position. With that said, I actually dont hate the 3bet like the others so much just as long as you are 3betting as a bluff. It it were me, I would have Cbet the flop and kept up the aggression. Your hand after the flop is just too strong to not be betting I think...of course I can see why we would c/c as well, and yeah if one of them has like AJ,AQ etc they are not going to fold but we still can get the turn and river to make the nuts.

Its not really bad. This deep, board covg n rev impl, plays more into this than a blocker or card removal, esp into 2 opponents.
Its not an auto squeeze, and my point was if we need to do this with 7 in our hand if u can read a post. Obv there are plenty combos we can 3b w an Ace. 🙄

Turn (3450)
Hero checks turn
V bets 1250

Hero (8600)

Never folding obv.
Arguments to check/raise here to push better Ax off the hand, rather than passively c/c and hoping the flush hits?