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11-22-2021 , 11:34 AM
Preface, not my hand.

Is 37 bigs too much to 5-bet shove jacks? I was playing $800 wsop deep stack the other day. Had $75K with blinds at 1,000/2,000 with BB ante. I opened to $5k from middle, button raised to $13K from his $40k stack and big stack four bet to $35k from big blind. I folded instead of shoving.

Thoughts on hero's fold?
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11-22-2021 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 3for3poker
Preface, not my hand.

Is 37 bigs too much to 5-bet shove jacks? I was playing $800 wsop deep stack the other day. Had $75K with blinds at 1,000/2,000 with BB ante. I opened to $5k from middle, button raised to $13K from his $40k stack and big stack four bet to $35k from big blind. I folded instead of shoving.

Thoughts on hero's fold?
I like it. You have almost no fold equity over 4 bettor really. Unless there is some sick leveling war or the big stack is super aggro, I’m fine not punting 37.5 bbs here. I mean at best you are against AQ/AK and sometimes against qq+ which is a punt. This spot really depends on table dynamics. It’s hard to give advice without more knowledge about how table has been playing out so far.
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11-22-2021 , 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jkpoker10
I like it. You have almost no fold equity over 4 bettor really. Unless there is some sick leveling war or the big stack is super aggro, I’m fine not punting 37.5 bbs here. I mean at best you are against AQ/AK and sometimes against qq+ which is a punt. This spot really depends on table dynamics. It’s hard to give advice without more knowledge about how table has been playing out so far.
This hand is from another board; We have no reads. I'd adjust your 'almost no' to exactly no. He will be calling 40 to win a pot of 164. No sane 4! hand ever folds.
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11-22-2021 , 03:00 PM
Without reads, probably calling QQ+.
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11-23-2021 , 04:57 AM
QQ+ without reads in a $800 WSOP. If the 3-bettor had been 3-betting a lot or anything like that, then probably JJ+/AK.
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11-23-2021 , 05:33 PM
I concur with the sentiment. Without reads, I think JJ is a fold here. Not really folding QQ for 40BB unless I have a very specific read.
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12-04-2021 , 12:05 AM
Bottom of calling range but super close and prob ok to fold
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