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05-29-2018 , 09:29 PM
Early in a tournament I got yelled at because of how I played this hand. (I think it is because he got unlucky, but want opinion if my line was bad on this hand or not.)

Blinds 75/150

Hero Stack ~12,000 (120 BB)
Vilain Stack ~ 16,500 (165 BB)
We are the 2 biggest stacks at this early stage of the tourney.

Vilain opens UTG for 400 everyone folds to the Hero in the cutoff with 77 and the Hero flats. Everyone else folds. (Pot 1,025)

Flop: 8 8 3
Vilain bets 800, Hero calls. (Pot 2,625)

Turn is the w
Vilain bets 1200, Hero calls (put 4,825). With this call the Hero has ~9,600 left behind. I called because it is really hard to put the Villain on a 8 and it is a lot more likely that my flatting range has an 8 in it then the UTG raise. Especially when I block all but one combo of 87 suited, also in my mind hard for the Villain to bet 3 streets when the 8 hits me more then him.

River: 7 Vilain bets 2,500 and the Hero shoves, and the Villain calls. Villain shows 86 off. Then proceeds to get angry with me for calling 2 streets with my 77s.

I am just wondering if me calling the turn was fine. It might be a little wide but I still think it would be hard for the UTG to have an 8 (even though he did so I was wrong on his opening range from UTG), and because an 8 should hit me more I think it is hard for him to go 3 streets with hands like AA, KK. Also if a 7 didn't come on the river and he bet the river I was folding. Just thought I had decent showdown value and it is hard for him to bet 3 streets, let me know.
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05-29-2018 , 10:17 PM
Pre is completely fine

Flop is a gigantic bet, which makes me wonder if we can possibly find an exploitable fold? But hard to fault a call.

Turn is weird since neither player should have a w in their range. But assuming this is another brick I think calling is ok here, I'm still wary of if live villains are capable of going two streets here with something like AK and I'd maybe lean towards a fold since I'd think we're against a lot of overpairs.

River is standard. Dont take any **** from some dude opening 86o UTG.
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05-29-2018 , 11:22 PM
Sorry it was a Q in the turn
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05-30-2018 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JSkelts
Turn is weird since neither player should have a w in their range.
This
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05-30-2018 , 11:40 AM
As said, preflop and flop are pretty standard. As said too, the flop bet is so big we might exploit and find a fold... But anyway, turn is tricky because his range contains some Qx but as you called flop, he should be worry and happy to x/c turn with any Q to pot control. Him 2 barrelling, starts to smell like an overpair. So, ok with pre and post flop, not sure abt turn call but i am sure that that douche is the worst for giving you sht. Dont care! cheers gg
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05-30-2018 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JSkelts

Turn is weird since neither player should have a w in their range.
w definitely unlikely to help either player but if he has Draw4's or GetOutofJailFree's in his range it's more likely to benefit him. Regardless, even if he has a w he may still want to slow down with two 8's on the flop so likely leaves more bluffs in his range. WP hand.
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05-31-2018 , 11:46 AM
I don't think the flop bet is abnormally large for lots of live players, he's betting 800 into 1025. Obv it's larger than "standard" on this texture, but I don't think we can draw information from that other than comparing it against other sizes this player has led on similar textures.
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06-02-2018 , 06:34 AM
Pre and flop are standard. Turn is a call if we think villain is even remotely balanced here. We dont block any bluffs and villain could easily barrel all JT,9T and XXhh combos ott. We have decent amount of Qx in our calling range otf but since we should defend ~70% vs his sizing and 77 is better call than say 99, folding 77 ott is exploitable.

If villain is perceived to be valueheavy after betting ~80% otf and ~40% ott, I’m fine with folding as an exploit.
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06-04-2018 , 11:00 AM
I find that when live players overbet on the flop it is more often than not AK having missed. Most players with overpairs bet in the range of 40%-60% pot.

On the turn when the bet is <50% pot it becomes strange. Another overbet would lead me to believe it really was an overpair. Maybe this bet wants to look like an overpair afraid of an 8? Also a Q hit so AQ/KQ becomes more of a possibility. If villain missed again with AK they usually check the turn. But some villain's do get stubborn.

In general I would fold to the turn bet assuming the Q helped villain. Or villain had something like A8s/98s.

But lol a guy trying to make you feel bad after opening EP with 86o.
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06-04-2018 , 09:50 PM
I’m folding turn against tight live player. As played, no reason for opponent to be mad really. He should love your flop and turn call with what his hand was. I’m folding turn here bc opponent is never checking back river with this line I feel. A lot of overpairs are in his range and qx.

Something I’ve learned live is most players play pretty straight forward and don’t double barrel without a hand. I feel it’s a simple fold on turn. Find better spots
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