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11-12-2014 , 04:40 PM

Lac Long Quan

newbie

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 26

no reads on villain, I'm running 17/11/5 over 133 hands

Full Tilt, 140/280 blinds, 25 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #32556742

BTN: 10,881 (38.9 bb)
SB: 21,629 (77.2 bb)
BB: 13,285 (47.4 bb)
UTG+1: 7,248 (25.9 bb)
UTG+2: 2,098 (7.5 bb)
MP1: 5,720 (20.4 bb)
Hero (MP2): 6,004 (21.4 bb)
MP3: 5,000 (17.9 bb)
CO: 12,430 (44.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K

3 folds, Hero raises to 560, MP3 folds, CO calls 560, 3 folds

Flop: (1,765) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets 665, CO raises to 1,680, Hero calls 1,015

Turn: (5,125) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets 1,960,

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11-12-2014 , 09:01 PM

johall111

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,496

do you have 130 hands on villain? if yes his stats are relevant, if no then yours are not imo. if youre opening KTo w 20bb and you dont felt here you can be exploited by raising every one of your cbets and barreling at you.
KTo seems too loose for MP2 open unless you have a passive table or some other leak your trying to exploit. in this position w 20bb im prob raising
22+,A9s+,A5s-A2s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,ATo+,KQo,QJo

i like the flop sizing and call and would shove turn

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11-13-2014 , 05:53 AM

mashxx

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 7,807

fold pre, shocker I know.

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11-13-2014 , 06:03 AM

Dragons_Egg

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,861

pre is questionable.

Doubt I could fold after flopping tp and would either gii on the flop or gii now on the turn.

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11-13-2014 , 01:38 PM

Lac Long Quan

newbie

Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 26

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Originally Posted by johall111

do you have 130 hands on villain? if yes his stats are relevant, if no then yours are not imo. if youre opening KTo w 20bb and you dont felt here you can be exploited by raising every one of your cbets and barreling at you.
KTo seems too loose for MP2 open unless you have a passive table or some other leak your trying to exploit. in this position w 20bb im prob raising
22+,A9s+,A5s-A2s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,76s,ATo+,KQo,QJo

i like the flop sizing and call and would shove turn

no stats on villain

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11-13-2014 , 03:57 PM

wowsooooted

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

pre is fine, we have 20bb post, cant fold now

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11-13-2014 , 04:46 PM

AKupaA

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 488

Fold preflop. As played, fold to his raise OTF, you beat nothing and he has no bluffs in his range.

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11-13-2014 , 07:01 PM

johall111

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Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,496

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Originally Posted by AKupaA

Fold preflop. As played, fold to his raise OTF, you beat nothing and he has no bluffs in his range.

I don't know where but I'm fairly confident you misread something in hh. Villains line there is certainly hands that are behind KT and some prob even gii vs turn shove

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11-13-2014 , 07:02 PM

wowsooooted

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Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 5,077

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Originally Posted by AKupaA

Fold preflop. As played, fold to his raise OTF, you beat nothing and he has no bluffs in his range.

lol if you raise KT pre and fold to a raise otf everytime you hit top pair you you will be getting owned

also why can't he have bluffs in his range? our bet looks like just a cbet and our range shouldn't hit that board very often.. I would raise here with my entire range if I felt villian was folding enough to make it profitable

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11-14-2014 , 01:28 AM

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AKupaA

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Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 488

He's cold calling a 20bbs MP raise so I think his range is something like JJ+ (trying to trap because he doesn't want you folding to the 3bet), AJ, ATs and some broadways or suited connectors like KQo KQs, KJs, QJs, JTs, T9s. He could be playing 3bet/call with AK/AQ and TT-88 so I just see 4 hands raising the cbet as bluff which are KQo, KQs, KJs and QJs. Given the flop comes rainbow, I guess he would call the cbet with 2 spades, 2 hearts or 2 clubs trying to improve OTT and he wouldn't raise the cbet with JTs/T9s or an ace so I can't see a lot of hands raising the cbet as pure bluff, maybe KQo. His line seems to me much more strong than weak.

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11-14-2014 , 02:08 AM

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nonsimplesimon

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Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 10,011

I reckon that's a nice flop for that there hand. A real dandy with twenty beebs to boot too.

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11-15-2014 , 01:18 AM

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gregz41

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Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

I would wager all my chips after getting raised on the flop. And open pre flop is fine.

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