Thoughts?

BU had been really aggro and was a bit of a maniac in all honesty. SB seemed a competent player.

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PokerStars Hand #191144271983: Tournament #2378947653, $50+$5 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2500/5000) - 2018/09/16 22:38:19 WET [2018/09/16 17:38:19 ET]

Table '2378947653 1485' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: Percyeus86 (91173 in chips)
Seat 2: TaylorG6 (124338 in chips)
Seat 3: Silverearth (206472 in chips)
Seat 4: pokopikkka (42087 in chips)
Seat 5: reusvl (267539 in chips)
Seat 6: puan29 (148062 in chips)
Seat 7: 3 man1 (61376 in chips)
Seat 8: stigbi (155460 in chips)
Seat 9: LuCasino777 (290762 in chips)
Percyeus86: posts the ante 625
TaylorG6: posts the ante 625
Silverearth: posts the ante 625
pokopikkka: posts the ante 625
reusvl: posts the ante 625
puan29: posts the ante 625
3 man1: posts the ante 625
stigbi: posts the ante 625
LuCasino777: posts the ante 625
LuCasino777: posts small blind 2500
Percyeus86: posts big blind 5000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Percyeus86 [Jc Qc]
TaylorG6: folds
Silverearth: folds
pokopikkka: folds
reusvl: folds
puan29: folds
3 man1: folds
stigbi: raises 5000 to 10000
LuCasino777: raises 25000 to 35000
Percyeus86: raises 55548 to 90548 and is all-in
stigbi: folds
LuCasino777: calls 55548
*** FLOP *** [7c Jh 8c]
*** TURN *** [7c Jh 8c] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [7c Jh 8c Ad] [4h]

If the sb flats I'm fine with it, not much fe once he 3bets and we're pretty behind his range.

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Considering WE know BU is very aggro, then surely SB does too. He's almost never flatting here, so his 3bet range should be fairly wide. If we do get called, QJs realises a lot of equity in this spot I think.

I just think given what we think - folding here is really bad.

If you think SB is shoving something like 20% of their range, sure, we could have 40% equity and would only need a few folds for this to be +EV. Still feels a bit marginal, though, especially since the button could actually have something here. Honestly depends on my read of the SB.

Why even ask then. U already know the answer.

If you had more im fine with it as you have Fold Equity, in this spot seems kind of meh. He probably has to flick it in and call with a lot of his Kx "bluffs"

Yeah is a definite no no , we need some fold equity
To make this shove profitable and we have 0, simple as that

I agree with SHIP_DAT. We're gonna get better spots.

a lot of assumptions about sb that may or may not be true however he has to call 55k to win roughly 125k so your fold equity is going to be really low which is obv bad when you get it in with QJ. also do you know what equity realization actually means? of course you will realize all of your equity when you are allin with any hand because your opponent cannot make you fold anymore and you will see a flop, turn and river. if you say that QJs realizes „a lot of equity“ that does not make any sense because it will simply realize its equity vs your opponents range and thats not super likely to be very high.

just fold pre to the 3b but since you figured out your own answer anyway already you probably do not want to hear that.

too shallow to even try smt like this. it might become thing with 25 26bb+ in similar scenario

I haven't figured out anything - only giving my thought process on the situation.

This was my thought process. I used the word 'think' not 'know'. I suggest you think about things before posting in future, and offer something with a modicum of usefulness.

If you think the player who three-bet out of the SB is competent, I think you can find a better spot. I think that competent players generally don't 3-bet light from the SB into a short stack in the BB. I think SB's range is crushing you. I think you are just short enough that I wouldn't call this play a spew, exactly, but I think you have very little F/E and I think you are likely to be way behind whatever SB is raising with.