PokerStars - 8000/16000 Ante 1600 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 49.72 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 19.05, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 44)
BB: 34.75 BB (VPIP: 18.64, PFR: 10.71, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 59)
UTG: 25.68 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 30)
UTG+1: 40.99 BB (VPIP: 19.50, PFR: 12.89, 3Bet Preflop: 5.38, Hands: 201)
MP: 35.94 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP+1: 31.53 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
MP+2: 19.99 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 18.31, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 75)
Hero (CO): 35.78 BB
BTN: 83.19 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 30)

9 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has Q K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.1 BB, BTN raises to 6.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.4 BB

Flop: (15.4 BB, 2 players) K 6 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 6 BB, Hero calls 6 BB

Turn: (27.4 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (27.4 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 27.4 BBHero?

This is Sunday Marathon 55$ F2T. No specific reads about Villain despite his highest score was about 4.5k and perceived he isnt going too far out of line. up to this hand 30 Hands abbreviated (20/17-0 3bet - 75 cbet) after 90 Hands - (19/16-9 3bet),
- If we jam flop we probably get only called by better but we could prevent to get outdrawn by Fdraw or a Ace peels off. We also give opportunity to continue his bluffs.
-if he cbets 99-QQ and AJs, AQs, AQo, ATs (54 combos)
Vs AA, KK, AK (15 combos) we should jam because its so good to pick up this pot right away and we deny his equity with f.e. A highs....so if he bets his bluffs its good shove, he isnt the best player so he want to bet lot of Air to take down the pot right away and exploit the chip stacks?

im not thrilled about defending KQo oop 35bb deep esp if u think that he isnt getting ool with his 3bets or that his image doesnt suggest that ( if he is getting ool than its a crystal clear 4b shove and not defend )

preflop i think 4b shove>fold>flat . u dont block typical 3bet Ax bluffs in this spot so that's cool and u block KK QQ AQ AK hands that would for sure 3b call so KQo might be ideal 4b shove bluff here. far better adjustment in so shallow 3b spots is to 4b shove more/defend less. when u flat u re so freakin capped in these spots that any capable villain would be able to exploit very easy.

however, we defended. i dont see ANY merits in x/gii otf, x call is the way to go as i dont see the urge to protect ourselves here. turn si aweful. i dont know really as im almost never in this kind of spot with this stacksize but that is all comming from a preflop play

i agree with all of nomalices points about pre and flop. as played i assume you would be leading most (all?) Ax hands otr? if so i wouldn’t fold the top of my range for taking the line you took. seems like a pretty drastic adjustment when we are basically readless.

I'd c/r flop . You are top of your range and you want some value to go with your fd etc . If you run into a better hand then so be it
As played I think you can fold rvr because most villains don't shove Kx or worse pairs here and if he had a pure bluff like JTs he's more likely to continue bluffing the A turn than take this line

+1

i did fold...

thank you for input.

yeah Ax i would lead otr

its not the worst price with a decent hand preflop which we are most of the time fit or fold. so when fit we cant get that much exploited...and if we only fold or 4bet we cant open that much.
i think a RFI / flat range is reasonable despite oop.

in most of the spots u wont be able to realise your equity... it looks pretty close, we need to win pot 28% to make preflop profitable and have about 35% vs 3b range so that KQo would be kind of borderline EV wise, esp if u play fit/fold (ie no other ways to take the pot down beside hitting it). also KQo has kind of the reverse implied odds here vs somewhat balanced villains. i mean on Q53XX for example im not sure how good would calldown would be actually and we gotta do it. our range is simply too capped and too weak.


u wont get exploited by playing fit or fold here ? bold statement. we cant take full stack if the guy isnt getting very much OOL by blasting off on K highs with much garbage (if we assume that he even has garbage hands in his range ).

i agree with that point if we only f/4b we cant open that much, that's true, but if the guy isnt getting ool ( ie 3betting 88 AJs+ AQo+ range and few bluffs like KJo A5s or whatever ) we wont get exploited if we fold KQo here. by no means i think KQo should not be an open but u should open less in this spot where btn sb and bb almost all cover u and could/should put pressure on u.

so if he 3bets only 7.4 % wich is way too tight even for this player with a 7% 3bet (110 hands, at FT) wich isnt accurate for his bu 3bet range i should 4bet JJ+ and AK+

but if its a 10% range whe should 4bet this: [IMG] http://imgur.com/a/UVe7M [/IMG]

I think if your folding pre you are way overfolding CO BTN dynamic. He is chip leader OTB and we are fairly readless. He could well be wide with all worse broadways, Ax's,SC and pairs in his range. We have excellent blocker value too, I think calling pre is never going to be a huge mistake, its different if we got 3b opening utg.

I would fold river he has a lot of aces in his range and we have to be right often with that price

If villain is a somewhat normal player folding pre is ridiculous. Even if he bluffs literally 0% he's still 3b/calling something like 77+/KQs/AJo/ATs+ and given the price laid we need to at least peel vs that. I think most people will also size down KK+ a little and sometimes *gasp* bluff with a hand like J9s.

I'd play the entire hand the exact same way.

Pre flop stack sizes make this hand ****ty to play oop. I think fold KQo to a 3 bet is the right way to go. In position I defend. KQs I defend. Fold KQo

i like.
good analysis of situation. was as well my feel. think 4bet shove could be ok but little too deep. only if we got little read he is abusing.

thank you.

was only little pissed about the turn. thats main reason i posted probably. because if no ace come and prob no heart i would won hand and this threat where redudant.