$500 BI- value jam river with JJ overpair? - Page 2 - MTT Poker Strategy

Actually quite a bit to like about this post, sometimes a hammer is the only tool for the job. I tend to be too much of a nit in spots like this, or I do something fancy and regret it later.

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12-19-2018 , 04:44 AM

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bearer

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,688

Jamming turn is actually the "nit" line. Good nit. Click all in and you don't have to worry about tons of bad river cards.

Everybody zero'ed in on TT, but how about not making this the most pleasant line A

has ever faced? You wouldn't know the difference between live fish and Justin Bonomo the way they both play the river with that hand.

And are we bluffing? I bet we're not with this line (which is why river is too thin imo). Flush draws want to ship turns I'd imagine.

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12-21-2018 , 08:57 AM

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swissodds

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Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 1,103

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Originally Posted by 2pairsof2s

It is true that this is a standard spot to see a shove , but in my experience the villain will either snap you off or fold. In other words, it is a spot where nothing that you beat is likely to call, and nothing that beats you is likely to fold.

As Mr Rick points out, you can get villain to pay off two streets here with losers but rarely three. So why not check back the river, since you have little to gain and much to lose with a shove.

Showdown value is a forgotten concept in today's game.

Pretty much this

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12-21-2018 , 12:58 PM

#29

jpgiro

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Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 1,428

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

15k on flop and shove turn, then we won't all have to hem and haw about riv

This honestly is the correct answer.

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