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04-16-2018 , 07:27 PM
This spot has been bugging me since last night.
Villain is a standard Aggro Mtt reg who is 3b a lot and been annoying /tough to play against.
I haven’t seen this an on acr but his sharkscope was
Blocked so maybe he’s good. My ranges aren’t as solid for sub 100bb mtt poker so I had some questions here

Hh:
I’m on 159k@ 1.5/3k
15bb stack opens hj for min 6k
I have aq and 3b from co to 15k
Villain (who is unknown at this time) makes it 42k from sb

Is this just a super standard defend and take it to the streets
Are ppl rly 4b weaker hands in this spot?
For his range I’d probably 4b some frequency of kjs/has 99+ Here. Aq is gonna do pretty good here if his range is this wide.

Or I could just fold bc I’m like ok dude you prolly just have it and I don’t wanna ditch 40% of my stack and I’m 5/27 right now and there’s lots of soft spots around so I’ll just let u have it

Bonus hh
I open hj w ajo
He 3b the hand before like an orbit or two ago orb to 2.5x off covering stack at like 50/60bb
Do we like aj in a 4b bluffing range or is the price too good and I can just defend a good hand

I choose option 2
I call flop 568 I have bd diamonds w the j
Do we like
Lead
C/f
C/r
C/c
And why

Thx
Ps fu if you see this post but I respekt your lag villain

Last edited by lolposting2016; 04-16-2018 at 07:32 PM.
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04-16-2018 , 07:56 PM
Does villain cover?
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04-16-2018 , 09:50 PM
First hand: I think his 4bet range is pretty strong here. OR range with 15 BBs should be pretty strong here. I imagine he's jamming a lot of his more marginal holdings. So you can't 3bet him that wide here. So I'd say villain has AQ+/TT+ at the least. I also think he would just jam with the lower end of that range (assuming he covers you here). So I think he's realistically QQ+/AK and you can fold.

Even if he is capable of cold 4bet bluffing here, I wouldn't expect him to do that when OR is so shortstacked.

On hand 2, I would probably just 4bet jam AJo with 50-60 BBs against a villain like this here. Maybe flat AJs.

As played, c/fold flop. I think he'll bet his overpairs and draws and check back his overcards. His range is too strong to play back against with naked overs. Maybe x/raise if you had the Ad
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04-16-2018 , 11:44 PM
H1 I think we fold pre knowing that its super doubtful anyone is bluffing here. The HJ is so short hes clearly intending to get it in against him, or has a read that HJ is raise/folding here and knows how strong this 3b looks to you. I think its just 10x more likely hes just trying to stack off vs the short stack here.

H2 just x/f flop I think - it sucks to get pushed around but that doesn't mean we should take super low equity spots to fight back. As mentioned above it gets better to x/c or x/r with the Ad.
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04-17-2018 , 01:15 AM
With OR being so short and SB unknown (at that point) this is a muck
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04-17-2018 , 04:37 AM
what are your 3! stats like OP?

flat the AQ and 4! the AJ imo (but not rly sure of depth in second hand and assuming 4!/f is viable)
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04-17-2018 , 10:37 AM
What did cutoff do in H1? I assume he folded since you didn't say. I think the 4 better has a very tight range, even if he is aggressive. I'd fold either way.

Hand 2, is never a call. Fold or jam, for sure. Why play a tough player out of position with a hand that really needs to flop 2 pair to love it? I'd save my calls for hands that flop very well, like JTs or set mines if the price is right.

AQ/AJ are just not that great without initiative...
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04-17-2018 , 11:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldsilver
what are your 3! stats like OP?

flat the AQ and 4! the AJ imo (but not rly sure of depth in second hand and assuming 4!/f is viable)
I don't think it's viable to have a 4bet/fold range at 50-60 BBs. In any case, doing that with a hand like AJo would be bad.
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04-17-2018 , 04:04 PM
My 3b stats are pretty in line I don’t run a hud these days since I don’t rly make a ton of explo adjustments and just try and play an optional strategy. But fr mtts I prolly 3b @ 8-12%

In hand 1 the original raiser folded. I honestly think that the 4bettor can be pretty wider than u think as he’s prolly fine flipping w a bunch of hands that the 15bb stack gets it in w and original raiser is gonna fold almost always here. So it’s a pretty nice spot for him to be aggro w some hands I think.
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04-17-2018 , 04:09 PM
Aj can be an ok hand to 4b small but I think vs the small 3b I can just take it to the streets mostly. (Which I ended up doing and c/f flop)
Annoying tho because I think he’s likely way to wide and a decent exploit to your typical mtt reg who’s 3b some silly ranges to just 4b him pretty aggressive and ajo works kinda well w blockers and playability post and makes and easy fold vs 5b shove
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04-17-2018 , 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Aj can be an ok hand to 4b small but I think vs the small 3b I can just take it to the streets mostly. (Which I ended up doing and c/f flop)
Annoying tho because I think he’s likely way to wide and a decent exploit to your typical mtt reg who’s 3b some silly ranges to just 4b him pretty aggressive and ajo works kinda well w blockers and playability post and makes and easy fold vs 5b shove
I think AJo is too good of a hand to 4bet/fold.

I do think it has enough equity to just 4bet jam at 50-60 BBs against someone who's 3betting like a maniac
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04-17-2018 , 11:39 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by zanardi1
Does villain cover?
Yea villain covers both hands
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04-18-2018 , 10:01 PM
Like flatting both, prolly just c/f n2 and feeling meh.
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04-19-2018 , 08:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by poloplaya1414
I think AJo is too good of a hand to 4bet/fold.

I do think it has enough equity to just 4bet jam at 50-60 BBs against someone who's 3betting like a maniac
I really dislike 4b jam with AJo and agree that it is bit of a too strong hand to 4b/fold. I'm finding playing AJo in similar spots very difficult. Ppl are 3betting A2s-A5s pretty standardly here and they could flick in any random Axo from my experience so I really want those hands to stay in his range.

H1 folding and calling both seem reasonable
H2 easy x/f flop, we'll defend a ton of hands that connect with the board pretty good vs that 3b sizing
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