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08-14-2018 , 11:51 PM

renodoc

Casino Olympics Champion

Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 8,357

About 100 left, 50/350 get paid. mincash is $1150, $60k on top, $500 buyin

Blinds 1k-2k with ante

Folded to hero (89k) in MP with 9

Hero minraises to 4k

HJ calls

CO (60k) calls

SB folds

BB calls

flop (19k) 7

BB checks

hero bets 11k

HJ folds

CO shoves

BB folds

Hero?

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08-15-2018 , 12:52 AM

wait

banned

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,115

Need reads bud but prolly not folding. Pretty villain dependant on this NJ/NV ****.

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08-15-2018 , 10:07 AM

SHIP_DAT

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 280

Ya not thrilled about it but calling without any significant reads

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08-15-2018 , 10:57 AM

onehandatatime

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hmmm...They are shoving FD's, sets and 88-AA, although I don't see QQ-AA just flatting pre. We're actually only beating FD's and 88 or maybe a badly played A7 or 56. It's not like villain is super short stacked either

Really tough call and would have to be very villain dependant.

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08-15-2018 , 12:38 PM

poloplaya1414

old hand

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Call and get ready to race.

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08-15-2018 , 12:56 PM

renodoc

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I don't play these all that much so I don't have a lot of player notes. I find the play on these larger guarantees to be pretty solid.

For a player to overcall pre, knowing that the BB is gonna at least call- this has to eliminate QQ-AA, should eliminate AKdd and hands like it, which leaves most smaller pairs and suited connectors, FDs.

I fist-pumped this flop and didn't think that long when he shoved.

I'm pretty curious what people's ranges are here tho.

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08-15-2018 , 03:07 PM

poloplaya1414

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Originally Posted by renodoc

I agree with your take, it's mostly gonna be draws, some small pairs overplaying their hand because they're bad, and of course some sets.

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08-15-2018 , 06:55 PM

wait

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Think his range is JJ only but you gotta call anyway

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08-15-2018 , 08:47 PM

RalphWaldoEmerson

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looks like a b/f to me, we're a dog to f draws, I mean what are we hoping V turns over?
I'd discount A7s and 22 pre off 30bb stack, maybe give 50% to TT.
Yeah we need reads/stats

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08-15-2018 , 09:22 PM

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poloplaya1414

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

looks like a b/f to me, we're a dog to f draws, I mean what are we hoping V turns over?
I'd discount A7s and 22 pre off 30bb stack, maybe give 50% to TT.
Yeah we need reads/stats

I mean we need 34% to call. Yeah we’re flipping against FD+ overs but can’t fold flips getting 2:1 and I think that draws are most of his range.

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08-16-2018 , 08:48 AM

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JSkelts

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Cant fold to 90% of the players on WSOP, but there are a few that will only raise with the nuts+ and we can comfortably fold.

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08-16-2018 , 01:28 PM

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renodoc

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Hero calls.

Villain flips over KK

sigh. who plays KK like that?

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08-16-2018 , 03:15 PM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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that's part of why i think it's a fold (results o etc) but ppl do dumb stuff preflop w/TT-AA a lot of times because late stage either makes them undervalue their hand or they have some weird kneejerk trapping instinct

one possible breakeven point

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08-16-2018 , 03:17 PM

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RalphWaldoEmerson

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If he shoves 88 then obv our equity goes up but I would weight TT-AA (combined) to a similar amount as 88 here
overall it probably leans slightly towards a call if you include a little bit of randomness/possible other 7x in there
but again the whole thread is kinda dumb tbh without any vpip stat or reads on CO

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08-21-2018 , 07:49 AM

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swissodds

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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson

This

possibly folding due to overall particular field tendencies in semi-late stages, mathematically calling due to "gto"

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