100/200 blinds with a 200 button ante

Hero gets dealt AcTh in small blind. Hero has about ~20k
1 limp from an old rec in middle position, very active/aggressive villain on the Button raises to 750
I think this is a 3bet or fold spot, I 3bet to 1750
Button calls
Flop comes Q98 with the Q and 8 of clubs.
I cbet 2000
Button calls
Turn comes a non-club 7 doesn't put another flush draw out
I double barrel 4700
Button tanks for about a minute then calls
River is the 9 of clubs
I jam all in
Villain tanks for 2 minutes hemming and hawing then asks if I'll show if he folds.

What would you do in this spot? I feel like as played on the river this is the best candidate I'll have to bluff with that I would have fired with all three streets. I can have AA, KK, QQ, that's 15 combinations, plus some nut flush combos like AcKc, assuming I always 3bet those premium hands in this spot and I 3bet ATo at a low frequency, and maybe occasionally mix in some suited aces, I should generally be ripping it here with AcTx right?

Less otf
Rest seems fine
Pf should be a mix and folding ato pretty often is fine

Id rather a bigger 3bet pre since youre in the blinds,I usually 3x least from blinds.
Nice bluff,from his eyes if you were barreling a flush draw you got there so it would be a bad call from him on that river,I dont think he would think you have An over pair in your range because they would most likely check the river.
More interesting is if a non club falls on river do we still jam?Your Ac now blocks his fold range,I would think it better to give up then

Prob wanna be going much bigger pre, doubt you get many folds for this sizing, and doubt you'd wanna go this small if you actually had stronger hand. Nor should you be going that small if you had a stronger hand, hence you shouldn't go this small with your bluffs either.

AP, WP. This is definitely one of your best bluffs (you should have a good chunk of AcJx, AxJc, AcTx, AxTc, KcJx, KcTx, KxTc) and you have enough QQ+, JT, and flushes to balance.

Actually think flop sizing should be bigger, though this sizing is OK too. Your range is wide enough to split off your fatter value into a larger-sizing strategy and balance it with your best flop bluffs (this combos being an example of one of your best flop bluffs. So a range of approximately overpairs, 2pr, etc balanced with AT, AJ, KT, KJ which you use for a larger sizing compared to the rest of your range (which mostly wants to go tiny here since you have to rep your RA--which isn't large on this texture--meaning you need to cbet often into a strong range and the way to reconcile that is to also include a tiny sizing strategy in your strategy profile, like 10% of the pot)

I'm jamming all ace, jack, six, or club rivers.

I agree in spirit with sizing bigger pre however in this specific spot I elected to go a little smaller because I'm expecting this villain to be sticky and since this is a live donkament I'm thinking 99 times out of a 100 the limper is either going to fold to any 3bet or 4bet with limped aces or kings because that's what people do at my casino so I wanted to save a few chips for when that happens and keep behind bigger barrels for postflop when the button calls.

AcTx should have enough equity to x river on 9s or 9h, in that case you're right V's folding range is blocked and also all his FDs (which should be numerous since he called a 3b OTF with what should be a very wide range) whiffed so AcTx is good a non-trivial amount of time on 9s or 9h.

Then just fold pre.

By sticky I should have clarified as loose in the front, tight in the back, but you're right when I do 3bet here I should probably go for 2300 or so but I generally fold in this spot.

I'm stealing this.

NH. Did he show? His most likely folding hand is KQ-AQ or an 8x like J8s.

want to see a few more responses from other posters before I reveal if he folded, if he did it face up, or if I showed. but yes I would expect him to fold that same range here.

Ok since nobody else responded:

More pre or fold. Ready seems fine.

Hmm I think river shove is fine due to the fact to block j-10. Hmm however I don’t like how this hand is played pre. First off, you are the small blind. You will always be oop when we see a flop. Your sizing in my honest opinion is horrible. 2.33x the iso should be peeled by almost any two cards. We should be 3.25x-4.5x the raise pre here if we decide to play this hand. Personally I think 3.5x-4x oop. Give villian a reason to fold as I don’t think we should be thrilled to play A-10o oop.

Honestly, I think this is just a muck pre. A-10o makes a meh hand even when we smash an ace. We hardly can get stacks in confident here. I would just fold pre and find a better spot. I also think playing this hand oop is going to be super tricky postflop so I just pitch and look for better spots.

As played, I like you have the courage to fire 3 streets here. You are making a big mistake if you don’t have the ability to fire multiple streets here with this type of hand and the fact you block j-10 etc. I think you should just fold pre but as played seems ok. I can tell you lost hand. Didn’t read all posts itt but people generally only ask when they lose a hand it seems. If this got through, nice bluff
. If not just fold pre I guess and find better spots. At 100bb deep, I don’t like this sort of high variance spot where we need Villian to not have a hand/ make a big fold.

One more thing about hand. Thoughts on Villian just flatting KK pre here? I feel if I’m in Villians spot, I’m 4 betting like all the time here against non old guy super nits. I think I would 3b Heros 1750 sizing to like 4K- 5.5k.

Any thoughts on % we should flat vs 4bet kk in this spot. As first I don’t like flatting but if we 4b, we fold out a lot of range we have dominated I feel.

I honestly feel like I would probably 4bet kk at like 100% in this spot bc we are so deep and it makes postflop play much simpler but I’m also scared to take big pocket pairs to the streets as I have some pretty terrible punts with big pocket pairs early in live mtts.

Don't know why you risk all that much so early in a tournament.

Why you want to play for stacks in the first or second level?

Seems very silly to me.

But, anytime anyone asks me if I'll show if they fold, I shrug, and say, sure. No matter if bluff or good hand.

But, putting all your money in on a bluff so early in a tournament seems like a massive leak.

You'll get the goods. There will be a spot you can exploit later on.

And, to be honest, if you play like that against me, you'll get my chips in the first few levels, but at level 8 or 9, I will probably still be playing! Haha.

You can also tell him you'll show him one and let him pick. If he picks the Ace of clubs, he'll feel he made a good lay down. If he picks the 10, haha.

And, JK poker, why is it okay to fire three streets in the early levels of a tourney that will go 6-18 hours? Not sure the entrants or casino. But, why play that way so early?

He would have gotten me off the kings if I didn't know him I probably give up on the turn, curse my luck and go dump a $100 in Video poker machine if I had Kings and come back in 15 minutes.

Because I 3bet light some of the time I feel like we should definitely be 4betting KK here at a very high frequency because it's going to deny equity from hands like A5s, A4s, 98s, etc which can either flop us into very bad shape or set up multiple bets across multiple streets which are going to leave us in a funky position with one pair most of the time. It also opens us up to 4bet light with hands like T9s etc against players capable of the light 3bet.

An ace is going to flop about 1/5 times so if we flat KK we're going to be seeing the ace high flop a lot of the time and now what do we just fold to 100% of cbets on the most popular cbet board?

When we 4bet KK we fold out most of the range that can flop us semi-dead and the range we get action from is going to be much easier to play against postflop.

I think it's OK to flat KK here a very low percentage of the time, very low, and to flat AA more often because AA isn't going to have the problem of seeing an overcard on the flop ~20% of the time. AA also gives us more relevant blockers on flush boards than KK which makes calling down easier and we'll punt less often.

3 bet triple barrel in a $250 in what appears to be level 4 or less.



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