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02-19-2018 , 07:53 PM
Anyone finding a fold here? Villain is solid. WCOOP L 8 game event winner and doesn't appear to be too cavalier. Very much assuming they've a flush/flush draw here. I deduced that worst case scenario was me being around 35% with re-draws to the boat and best case I'm around the 70% mark vs AcX...

My bet size on the flop was designed to a) take down the pot there and then, b) if a call comes in, evaluate turn and c) if a shove comes, see first paragraph.

Just interested to see if anyone would play this differently and how.

    Poker Stars, $20 Buy-in (1,800/3,600 blinds, 360 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 3 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37931570

    Hero (BTN): 97,799 (27.2 bb)
    SB: 193,619 (53.8 bb)
    BB: 185,434 (51.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 6
    Hero raises to 7,750, SB folds, BB calls 4,150

    Flop: (18,380) 2 6 T (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 14,400, BB raises to 177,324 and is all-in, Hero calls 75,289 and is all-in

    Turn: (197,758) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (197,758) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 197,758 pot
    Final Board: 2 6 T J 4
    Hero showed 6 6 and lost (-97,799 net)
    BB showed T A and won 197,758 (99,959 net)



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    Last edited by Percyeus86; 02-19-2018 at 08:02 PM.
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    02-21-2018 , 01:03 PM
    Bet much much less as a cbet to protect the times you have QJ and want to win it for less of an investment.

    You're only posting here because you lost the hand. Of course you're never ever ever folding.
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    02-21-2018 , 01:10 PM
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    Originally Posted by Soepgroente
    You're only posting here because you lost the hand. Of course you're never ever ever folding.
    Perceptive much?


    Thanks though. In hindsight, I SHOULD have used a smaller sizing and then evaluated how I was going to proceed on all turns. As it was played, given the polarised nature of the board, and my bet, I don't think villains jam is a bad play at all here, considering that there is also a bounty on the line. If he just flats and then a 4th club peels off, I'm probably finding a way to get away on the turn and villain is no better off for it. Given the fact that villain is probably aware that my folding range should be pretty inelastic here, I think his holding and his subsequent jam (again, with the bounty in mind) is just THE play to make in this situation. As it was, it was probably the worst case scenario for him but alas, he managed to hold after spiking the club on the turn and ousted me, and claimed by bounty!
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    02-21-2018 , 01:43 PM
    Sorry if that was a bit snide, but no need to overthink hands like this. Maybe if you bet near pot he won't jam as many hands, but he's always jamming JT+ with a club and if you bet 8k he might also jam just with the Ac. The only hand you're afraid of is 3betting pre 100% of the time.

    The amount of Ac/X or Tx with a club kicker is much larger than flopped flushes. Plus you're destroying all the 2 pairs and the lower set. Plus he might put you on a high club and jam QT+ without a club and then you're especially golden.

    To give you an idea how not close this is: if you both had 300k and he made this play I'd still call.
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    02-21-2018 , 03:57 PM
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    Originally Posted by Soepgroente
    Sorry if that was a bit snide, but no need to overthink hands like this. Maybe if you bet near pot he won't jam as many hands, but he's always jamming JT+ with a club and if you bet 8k he might also jam just with the Ac. The only hand you're afraid of is 3betting pre 100% of the time.

    The amount of Ac/X or Tx with a club kicker is much larger than flopped flushes. Plus you're destroying all the 2 pairs and the lower set. Plus he might put you on a high club and jam QT+ without a club and then you're especially golden.

    To give you an idea how not close this is: if you both had 300k and he made this play I'd still call.
    No worries mate, and thanks for the input.
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