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 MiniFTOPS #10 - Turn 2p, donk or c/j?  MiniFTOPS #10 - Turn 2p, donk or c/j?

09-11-2014 , 06:34 PM
Another couple from the miniFTOPS #10.

1)Not sure whether to donk or c/j? Not really a fan of giving a free card, but then maybe its better to attempt to c/j here? Villain is pretty much unknown, running 37/23/3 (vpip/pfr/af) from 23 hands.

    Full Tilt, 600/1,200 blinds, 150 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30470261

    BTN: 21,561 (18 bb)
    SB: 73,030 (60.9 bb)
    Hero (BB): 41,077 (34.2 bb)
    UTG: 87,460 (72.9 bb)
    MP: 11,991 (10 bb)
    CO: 54,779 (45.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with T 8
    UTG raises to 2,400, 4 folds, Hero calls 1,200

    Flop: (6,300) Q 2 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, UTG bets 3,600, Hero calls 3,600

    Turn: (13,500) T (2 players)
    Hero bets 8,760, UTG calls 8,760

    River: (31,020) 3 (2 players)
    Hero bets 26,167 and is all-in, UTG folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 31,020 pot
    Final Board: Q 2 8 T 3
    Hero mucked T 8 and won 31,020 (16,110 net)
    UTG mucked and lost (-14,910 net)



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    2) Villain is pretty much unknown. Not really bothered about whether or whether not to 3 bet pre, its probably close. Cooler? Possible to c/f river?

      Full Tilt, 600/1,200 blinds, 150 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30470241

      CO: 71,891 (59.9 bb)
      BTN: 69,580 (58 bb)
      Hero (SB): 57,037 (47.5 bb)
      BB: 111,052 (92.5 bb)
      MP: 51,929 (43.3 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with T K
      MP folds, CO raises to 2,400, BTN folds, Hero raises to 6,540, BB folds, CO calls 4,140

      Flop: (15,030) K 2 T (2 players)
      Hero bets 7,450, CO calls 7,450

      Turn: (29,930) 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets 15,780, CO calls 15,780

      River: (61,490) A (2 players)
      Hero bets 27,117 and is all-in, CO calls 27,117

      Spoiler:
      Results: 115,724 pot
      Final Board: K 2 T 8 A
      CO showed 7 A and won 115,724 (58,687 net)
      Hero showed T K and lost (-57,037 net)



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       MiniFTOPS #10 - Turn 2p, donk or c/j? Quote
      09-11-2014 , 07:40 PM
      #1 I know small sample but he looks like he could keep barreling, and randoms do love to barrel here light, so I think I like the c/r on turn more.
      I don't like ur sizing on the turn if you are going to donk, I'd try to make it look like we have a draw not a made hand and bet 1/3, that way we get his value hands and some spew to come over the top, whereas if you bet 2/3 he just flats or gives up.

      2 Looks good
       MiniFTOPS #10 - Turn 2p, donk or c/j? Quote
      09-12-2014 , 03:33 PM
      I like your line on both hands..

      Hand 1: I really like the lead ott, especially because people are using way too much that "pot control" idea and cb most turns to get 2 streets of value w/ 1 pair hands. Given that, I use pretty much this lead ott to avoid V to cb turn w/ hands he would call even both streets, but would prefer to pot control if possible.

      If you check turn and V cb, I think you should go for the c/j otr, because V is either giving up oh the hand and is not calling a river bet or he has those kind of 1 pair hands that are trying to get value otr, and end up calling your raise a lot as your play doesnt makes much sense in their mind.

      Hand 2: Everything seems pretty ok for me... just a cooler...
       MiniFTOPS #10 - Turn 2p, donk or c/j? Quote
      09-12-2014 , 10:44 PM
      nh
       MiniFTOPS #10 - Turn 2p, donk or c/j? Quote
      09-13-2014 , 09:56 AM
      1 - wp

      2 - more pre
      Slightly more flop
      Shove turn
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