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$22 MiniFTOPS #10 - Button open facing 12bb shove.

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09-11-2014 , 06:16 PM

Foxyy

grinder

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 632

Hi 2p2. Not sure what our open/calling range should be here. A little help would be appreciated! Just joined table so no info, villain did pretty much snap jam whether that means alot or not.

Full Tilt, 500/1,000 blinds, 125 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30470211

MP: 25,861 (25.9 bb)
CO: 72,780 (72.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 49,160 (49.2 bb)
SB: 81,560 (81.6 bb)
BB: 12,783 (12.8 bb)
UTG: 47,754 (47.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

3 folds, Hero raises to 2,000, SB folds, BB raises to 12,658 and is all-in, Hero calls 10,658

Flop: (26,566) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (26,566) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (26,566) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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09-12-2014 , 06:39 PM

flettl2

adept

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 746

ICMIZER is a great tool for calculating these spots you should check it out.
If he's shoving top 25% of hands (ie all A's, pairs, and broadway) I think you can call with something like {33,A7o,A4s,KQo,KJs}.
A3s is very borderline, call if you think he's 3betting hands like 87s,J9s,T9o, and fold if you think he's flatting or folding these types of hands.

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09-12-2014 , 06:44 PM

flettl2

adept

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 746

It's really tough to put a random on a 3BS range here cause I've seen randoms flat A7o here and 3BS K5s. Super marginal spot, but here's an axiom to keep in mind:
"When in doubt to shove or fold...SHOVE! When in doubt to call a shove or fold...FOLD!"

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09-12-2014 , 09:45 PM

betgo

banned

Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,590

Probably a fold getting 1.6-1. Some randoms may be tight here. He can defend from the BB. He probably doesn't think he has much FE.

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09-12-2014 , 09:54 PM

Alexo

old hand

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 1,245

OPR, reg = call, random = fold.

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09-12-2014 , 10:13 PM

betgo

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Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 28,590

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Originally Posted by Alexo

OPR, reg = call, random = fold.

Easy fold against random. Close against reg. Depends on opponent and how much he thinks you are opening on the button.

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09-13-2014 , 01:32 AM

Greedy284186

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 425

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Originally Posted by flettl2

Can confirm his comments about ICMizer, its an amazing tool and cheap. Yeah I think this is a fold unless he's 3bet shoving like >25% or 30% of the time, which almost no one will be in $22's.

Edit: I wanted to mention that when I see people snap jam I notice they show up with AK quite a bit there. I def think you can consider the timing tell and throw out AA and KK since he waits a bit to induce with those. The snap jammed is like a predetermined, I have to do this, type of a thing imo.

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09-13-2014 , 10:58 AM

gregz41

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 8,609

Foldski.

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09-16-2014 , 07:15 AM

ArtanisAce

grinder

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 470

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Originally Posted by betgo

Easy fold against random. Close against reg. Depends on opponent and how much he thinks you are opening on the button.

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