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11-12-2017 , 08:01 AM
I don't have enough hands on the villains for reads. Not a super exciting spot, but it comes up enough and it can involve big pots.

Are enough worse hands calling if I raise the flop? And if we are raising, what do you think of a plan to raise/fold the flop, given how deep we are?

Winning Poker No-Limit Hold'em, 7 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (8 handed) - Converted at http://www.handhistoryconverter.com/

MP2 (t10,000)
CO (t10,000)
Hero (Button) (t10,160)
SB (t9,790)
BB (t9,236)
UTG (t10,577)
UTG+1 (t9,990)
MP1 (t10,072)

Hero's M: 225.78

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q
2 folds, MP1 raises t60, 1 fold, CO calls t60, Hero raises t240, 1 fold, BB calls t210, MP1 calls t180, CO calls t180

Flop: (t975) 3, 4, 5 (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets t488, CO calls t488, Hero calls t488, 1 fold

Turn: (t2,439) K (3 players)
MP1 checks, CO checks, Hero bets t1,450, 2 folds

[b]Total pot: t2,439

Results:
Hero didn't show Q, Q.

Last edited by suitedjustice; 11-12-2017 at 08:25 AM.
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11-13-2017 , 01:00 AM
I like your line just fine. You take down a medium size pot if the turn blanks, and you can get away from it with little damage if the turn creates a ridiculously wet board.

Raising the flop might get you a little more money from 88/99, etc., but it gives the better draws plenty of incentive to stick around. The bigger the pot gets, the more annoyed you'll be if the implied odds play out in their favor.
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11-14-2017 , 12:26 PM
I like the line. I don't like raise/folding at all.
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11-18-2017 , 05:52 AM
Well played
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11-18-2017 , 12:13 PM
Definitely don't like raise/folding flop, you don't want to get blown off your equity by draws on that board.

I am curious about your plan for the turn, though. Lots of cards you don't want to see. Was your plan to x/f any low card or spade but bet any A/K/J card? What if MP1 bet the K on the turn?
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11-18-2017 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
Definitely don't like raise/folding flop, you don't want to get blown off your equity by draws on that board.

I am curious about your plan for the turn, though. Lots of cards you don't want to see. Was your plan to x/f any low card or spade but bet any A/K/J card? What if MP1 bet the K on the turn?
Yeah the king may not be a brick on the turn in this particular case, if MP1 leads turn. Flatting the 3b with AK very deep and donking the 345 flop is a creditable line. Not the best line, but not terrible. Combine that with his non AK range and the fact that we hit the turn multiway and I'm folding turn if he leads.

Edit: If he leads for more than say .65 pot. Probably call for one more street if less.

Last edited by suitedjustice; 11-18-2017 at 05:29 PM.
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