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02-26-2018 , 07:57 AM
1st - 1.7
2nd - 1.2
3rd - 750
4th- 380

SB: 15,804,690 (19.8 bb)
Hero (BB): 31,446,068 (39.3 bb)
CO: 51,302,012 (64.1 bb)
BTN: 10,747,230 (13.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
CO raises to 2,000,000, 2 folds, Hero?

CO is kinda tight, not taking to much advantage of his chip lead. Not much 3b going on.
JJ id be happy to flat, KK id be happy to 3b but QQ felt abit eh given two other short stacks. Thoughts?

hand 2

SB: 31,249,380 (39.1 bb)
Hero (BB): 50,952,798 (63.7 bb)
BTN: 27,097,822 (33.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 T
BTN folds, SB raises to 1,840,000, Hero calls 1,040,000

Flop: (3,980,000) T 5 3 (2 players)
SB bets 1,552,200, Hero calls 1,552,200

Turn: (7,084,400) 4 (2 players)
SB bets 27,757,180 and is all-in, Hero ?

shouldnt really worry about these spots cos they are so infrequent, but thoughts?
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02-26-2018 , 11:12 AM
With top heavy payouts Id say go for it unless they are realky terrible and OR is super tight.

In 2 Tx with better kicker perform much better I think.
No reason to play combo-draws so aggro but rather protection play on very wet texture.
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02-26-2018 , 02:36 PM
1) 3-betting BIG ($8Mish) and potentially finding a fold if the guy jams and has been playing super tight. Against any decent/normal player I just get it in - it's QQ and you're 4handed.

2) Folding is a rare win-win here. Either he's ahead of you, or he's playing spazzy enough to jam 4x the pot with worse than a 10 here... if it's the latter, you're going to be able to chew him up 3handed. And you still have a decent chip lead.
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02-26-2018 , 08:23 PM
#1 - we shouldn't ever be upset about getting stacks in with QQ here unless villain is super nit.

#2 - our hand's mostly a bluff catcher, so the question how much Tx do we have to call with and if so, what Tx makes the most sense. I think not blocking hearts is relevant, I think having spades is relevant as well as it does give us 9 more outs. We also have plenty of other Tx without additional equity that we can fold if necessary. And seeing that we should raise overpairs and some broadway Tx pre this might be one of our better Tx hands at this point.
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02-27-2018 , 09:35 AM
#1 Assuming CO is opening something like 25% being kind of tight, QQ is ahead 96% of the time, and if villain for some reason is not getting in wide enough to make us happy calling 4 bet, we will still make heaps either in the pots where he calls our 3-bet or as he folds to our bluffs. If villain has AA or KK preflop we will hit overpair vs. overpair way more than 50% of the time and at 6 SPR we shouldn't often survive with a lot of chips. Also when villain has other things we hit overpair more than 50% of the time and when playing big pots in those cases we can get setupped too. QQ is so big pair that if you play it half decent and villain uses decent betsizes you will put your stack in often anyway.

#2 Folding turn seems good. Due to ICM problems villain is more likely to do this with hands that are better than one pair for protection and it would probably be close in GTO world anyway since we have many better hands.
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02-27-2018 , 11:03 AM
easy snap on hand 2, cmon
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03-05-2018 , 10:16 AM
QQ hand: 3bet/c a jam
if you are to stressed because of the two other shorties, you could go with a flat but you are killing your hand EV by flatting oop.
If it is part of a defined strategy, why not... But still... I d get it in.

T9 hand:
are you playing that hand vs the same guy you were against with the QQ hand?
To me, he is narrowing his range to A4hh, A5ss (maybe 65ss or 10x (J10. Q10. K10 if he really bad)) or low two pairs like 53. He s almost never 4x pot jamming with a straight nor with a set.
I dont have access to the programm here but would be interesting to know what are the needed odds to make it a profitable call.
Even if we are partly ahead of his range, i would consider folding to that overbet that could hurt our last 4players final table advantage position.
Looks like we ll have better spot to exploit the spazmator.
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