i recently played 2 2200$ tournament where i had kind of hard situations. want to check my lines.
1) 2.200 tournament 26 paid we are like 32 left. i have like 50 bb
full ring
utg lag russian guy makes it 2.5 bb
i am +1 have ako i make it 6.75 bb
fold +3 israeli regular thinks thinks and makes 13.5 bb
all fold lag russian fold israeli guy has total 34bb what do you do?


2) later in the same tournament last 16 left we are in the money but pay jumps are still small. 8 players utg opens we are cutoff have 23bb and 99. utg opened too many hands and showed a few weak hands. average in the tournament is like 42 bb
what do you do?

3) another 2.2 k tournament 44 getting paid we are like 46 and 2 guys like 2 and 3 bb left waiting to blind out. everybody folds. we are sb have 18bbs
and have a5o big blind has 16 big blinds antes like 12.5 percent.
what do you do?

1) Call and give up if missing flop

2) How many blinds does UTG have? This is the most important factor in this hand.

3) Very close between limping and giving up to any resistance pre and folding. Never raising.

Agree on #1 and #2 and just folding on #3. Not even trying to limp.

themcc utg covers me only sb has half my stack other players more than me

How much does he cover you by? Seriously, it's important. Estimated number of BBs?

utg has like 28 29 bbs would lose big part of his stack in a flip
bb and button also similar

Well given you have to get through 3 players who cover you and can 4b jam to your 3b, thus forcing you to fold, you have two options.

1. Jam
2. Flat.

I would prefer to take the second option, as it gives you multiple options depending on what button or bb do.
a) if one squeezes all in you can fold having only lost 2 bbs or whatever it is
b) if one squeezes all in and you think they're light, you can call it off
c) if they squeeze too small and utg comes along, you can either flat again behind or jam

Flatting the original raise with 9s is no risk to your stack and you have position in a pot where your hand is super well disguised.

by the way i remembered 2 more interesting spots.
4) in the 44 paid 46 left tournament there are 2 players left with like 2 or 3 antes.
we have 13bbs utg opens 2x cutoff calls we are big blind and have tt. utg has like 25bbs cutoff like 35 bbs.
you shove? you call or you fold. 13 bbs are like 3.3 x starting stack min cash is like 3825
for an entry of 2200.
what would be your move with jj or qq? i think aa and kk are obvious shove.
5) in another tournament where we are exactly bubble one guy has like 2 antes.
our table plays too loose to exploit bubble, i almost made a suicidal shove but folded at last moment, utg loose opens, lag +1 3 bets he almost 3bets any ax i am +2 have aqo have 15 bbs and i can almost hurt 2 players stacks i thought of shoving , if i shoved and they fold i would get like 2 times starting stack dead money. folded utg folds, +1 shows a6o. was it worth busting?

4. Likely shoving but don't mind a call. Never folding.
5. No idea what your hand is or how big this tournament is.

4) Shove KK+ only vs. utg raise with short stacks in play of 2-3bbs. Would normally say QQ+ but not vs. utg with that stack size unless they've been opening a LAG range. As played, call is OK and fold to flop aggression usually.

5) No, it's not worth busting. Let the big stacks have their fun unless you have a monster hand. Re-stealing isn't worth it here. Min-cashes are a big big part of a winning tournament player's ROI.

sorry in item 5 i have aqo

Fold

Agreed you need to find a fold. You also need to find the caps key.

Wait what #3 is like the easiest shove ever? You guys realize we have villain covered?

You realise there are at least two players with less than 3 big blinds. You also realise we have Ace 5 off, right? It's never a shove ainec.

1) Shove
2) Call
3)Depends on table dynamics, but probably limp
4)Shove or at least call
5)Shove

this is excellent analysis, this should have been my thought process, also i forgot to write but the table was playing quite tight because of icm there was almost no light 3bet or squeeze. i would not write this question if i had 18bb or less, with 23 bbs i should be more patient and flat and see the action. but players at 25k or more highrollers tournaments move allin here with up to 25 bbs so i was lazy and almost instant shoved. i should be more careful. even if it was cash game shove could still be good with 23 bbs.

what happened.
1) i did not really think carefully, yes he may have jj+ some ak, some aqs some tt he may turn to a bluff, we are blocking aa or kk but i should fold here, i dont like flatting 3bet oop with villain left with less than the pot. i would instafold if he covered me.
i shoved , he thanked me with aa and we were down short stack.
2) like i said this should be flat for more than 18 bbs, i shoved, big blind has aa utg folded and i was out(emphasis on t like jeff boski says).
3) without the math i was thinking this would be very easy shove, he has such a tight range to call us, it is for his tournament life and almost 3800$ we have an ace and we almost have like 32 percent against his calling range, but the point is probably icm works both ways and we should not put like 90 percent of our stack at risk. i hate limping there dont know if i would call the shove or even the raise with a5o. i shoved a5o he instacalls with kk we are down to two big blinds.
4) i flatted with tt, flop comes j76 76 clubs i check utg bets villain2 calls i fold, at showdown villain has 77, he said he would call the shove pre. i would be in a difficult situation if at the board tt was overpair and utg bets and villain2 folded.
5) like i said, shove with aq is at most marginal, so i folded this hand but if i shoved and it would have been successful, if everthing stayed the same the dead money we would add would probably cause us to flat 99 in the second hand.

What the actual hell, we're in a SB vs BB-spot where we have BB covered, are 2 off the money and have 2 ultrashortstacks in the field. Shoving any two ist going to be +$Ev guys, wtf is happening

can somebody like give a chart like how to play our range in 18bb vs 16 bb sb vs bb bubble situation? also lets say bubble was over and we were in the money but pay jumps were small and the same situation comes, i think it should definitely be a shove now any ax.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...ue&gid=0#gid=2

Wait, you're advocating shoving in a $2k tournament into the BB who has essentially the same stack as us, so we're dead if he calls and wins... when we are 2 off the money with at least two microstacks on the table... when we are comfortable with a decent stack and can cruise into the money?

Can you show me the tab on the chart you shared that factors in all of the above dynamics that makes those ranges relevant?

3 is a super standard shove because BB basically can only call like KK+ profitably even if he knows we shove ATC. If he calls and loses he doesn't cash 100% of the time. If he calls and we lose we still cash some % of the time.

Basically we just pick up free money with almost no concern.

EDIT: Unless we have a read that BB is a maniac and will call way too light in this spot.

We have 18bbs and are essentially risking our tournament life to steal 1bb + antes. This is absolutely not a standard shove, especially with no info on BB.

some info i forgot to add in the sb vs bb a5o hand, my 18bb was like 3.1 starting stack to ease the calculations, i thought he would only call tt+ aq+ it almost seemed like free money to me. but he said he would call the shove with 77+ ato+ which i would never call at bubble. and one positive result i still cashed from 2 bb doubling up twice.