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09-24-2021 , 03:57 AM

freemail88

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 112

This is an interesting hand that a friend posted in a group chat. He only gave a pretty brief description of position, bets etc, but I still found the spot to be pretty unusual. I'll try my best to recreate the hand as I see it.

Villain 1: Approx 100bb. Middle aged asian who plays well, and aggressively in the right spots.

Hero: approx 100bb. Unknown playstyle. Lets assume slightly conservative.

Pre-Flop

Villain opens from early or mid position, standard open. Folds to hero on btn with 9

, who 3bets 3x. Folds to villain who calls.

Flop

J

. Pot approx 20bb.

Villain checks, hero cbets 1/3rd pot. Villain Check raises 20-25bb.

Hero???

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09-24-2021 , 08:54 AM

ledn

MTTLivePro

Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 1,107

how is this interesting?? We have middle set in a 3bet pot on a super wet board 100bb eff. We are getting it in.

Seems like a cooler that he lost and wants reassurance thats its just a cooler.

3betting 99 btn v ep is on the looser side as well, so your read of hero seems off as well.

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09-24-2021 , 10:40 AM

Bubblebust

adept

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 830

Yeah, the only intersting thing is the 3! against EP open. What's the plan against a 4!? -- I guess it's gotta be fold. So flat is much bett IP here against EP open.

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09-24-2021 , 10:49 AM

PhatPots

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 3,933

I think this hero would be shoving this flop. You have a drawy board and there are a lot of cards on the turn that can kill the action. If the turn comes and it's an 8 or T or a club.

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09-24-2021 , 11:56 AM

deuceblocker

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Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 3,379

I would probably flat call pre. I would cbet larger on the very wet board. 4! shove flop. You have 3rd nuts and lots of outs against 1st nuts. Villain can have all sorts of combo draws.

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09-25-2021 , 04:20 PM

DeMichele

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2021 Posts: 5

Ooh a set. Here are my thoughts on whether we should go for it now or wait it out like a tiger in the bushes:

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09-25-2021 , 05:43 PM

deuceblocker

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Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 3,379

A couple of things I do not agree with in the video. You mention he could have AA/KK. That is pretty unlikely, as he should usually 4! those preflop. Also, it would probably be better to flat call the 1/3 pot cbet with those hands on this board.

I also do not like 3-betting the flop to like 60xBB leaving 1/3 pot behind. The shove should look weaker and it is unlikely villain is raise/folding this flop. You crush all but 2 made hands, but your win percentage is not huge against the kind of draws that would checkraise. You want to force them to fold (which is unlikely) or gii as a dog.

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09-26-2021 , 01:49 AM

freemail88

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 112

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Originally Posted by deuceblocker

I slightly disagree regarding AA/KK not being in a flatting range from UTG. Early position 4bets tend to have an extremely narrow range, which would let a lot of UTG's 3betting comfortably fold, when they might otherwise cbet pretty frequently.

Everything else is pretty spot on.

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09-26-2021 , 04:32 AM

oldsilver

MTTLivePro

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 5,941

3! is surely fine, we’re 100bb deep, iso IP
cbet size good
AA KK def there in random live V range once it’s guaranteed heads up - old dudes love to punish three betting young upstarts
Jam now

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09-30-2021 , 07:48 AM

#10

king klutch55

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 18

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Originally Posted by ledn

Agree with this assessment. I wouldn't like getting raised but i'm not folding.

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10-03-2021 , 12:13 AM

#11

nath

the second coming of the second coming

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 68,675

I'd jam with these stack sizes and this board.

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