This is in Montreal at Playground. $1,650 buy-in, multiple starting days and you can re-enter. Hero decided to enter late today.

The Table has a few looser spots, but haven't seen too much crazy action yet.

Starting stack is 30K, we are in 200/400 w/ 400 ante from BB.

Hero has ~27K
Villain has ~60K - he seems to be a recreational player, but looks competent. Our sample size is super small at this point.

Preflop: Hero has QJ in the CO
Folds to us and we raise to 1,100, Villain calls on the button, BB calls

Flop: QT6
BB checks, Hero bets 1,500, Villain raises to 5K, BB folds, hero?

What is our plan for the rest of the hand if we just call here? It feels a bit weak to fold here, but I not sure if this is too thin a spot and just better to pass it up. I am thinking of a few things here.
1. Do we want to play for our stack with this hand?
2. If we decide to call the flop are we going to try and get it in on what we deem to be a safe turn card?
3. Are we going to try and call down if the run out looks good?

As the hand unfolded,
Hero calls the flop.

Turn: 6
hero checks, villain bets 5,500, hero?

I honestly don't hate a b/f on the flop. Once raised, you are in serious RIO territory. If I were to call, I don't really think too many turn cards make me feel better. Definitely c/f the turn.

Assuming AQ QQ and TT 3bet pre, there are so few combos that beat us (66, KQ, QT), and so many diamond draw combos (AdXd, TdXd and combo draw diamonds) that when the turn bricks I may call turn and check/call all brick rivers.

b/f flop is not horrible, as villain either has you beat or has as much as >50% equity with his draw.

he really wants you to call that turn bet

Or bets just enough to make a decent river bet jam that can have us fold.

Indeed, b/f on the flop is conservative and okay. Once we call OTF and have this turn (which is one of the bests as it leaves only one combo of 66 which is his most probable holding that beats us with QT). There is also one combo left of QTs.

OTT, there are only two possibles plays, x/f or x/all in. The decision must be villain dependant. If we have the feeling villain would probably play his combo draws this way (pair +draw or straight + flush draw), with this turn we are favorite and should shove.

If villain is more on the conservative way and would only call with theses hands, we should clearly fold.

With no read on villain, and having paid flop. I guess I'd go with it, as usually people with big stacks in the beginning of tournaments are aggressive + he plays with position which conforts the idea that he could be making a play here with a big draw.

Except if villain seems very conservative I'm shoving this.

Main issue with this play is he still can have QK or AQ but again he shouldn't raise everytime flop with QK and he'll 3bet pre a good portion of the time with AQ pre. I'll be confident shoving it here and if he has it gg to him.

If we're thinking of b/f flop we should probably just check instead

I think checking the flop is better with your hand...you want to have some good x/c in your range and QJs seems like a good candidate OOP. We're just gonna be in a lot of tough spots on later streets. I'd like it better if you had a BDFD but still I think x/c this deep multiway is the play. For value we can bet our QT AA KK QQ TT 66 and check our KQ QJ Q9s and Tx.

Flop is never a b/f unless you wanna be exploitable or unless perhaps it goes BTN raise and BB shove.

Betting flop is OK sometimes but mostly we check.

We don't deny equity effectively here because of how many FDs, SDs, Pair+SD, Pair+FD, Combo Draw, etc. combos are in V's range.

In fact, we shouldn't be betting too much here with our range without relative position. If we're betting, sizing needs to be bigger like 3/4 pot or so.

From there, we're x/c to the river.

Good points. Please post more often.

Live I like x/c here, I do think we're overbluffing by checking this though. Unless maybe I need to be throwing AK/AJ in my checking range, which is probably more likely the case.

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I’m still undecided about this hand

Checking gives a free card to Ax Kx plus there are Q9- and Tx and drawing hands that give value.

Are we really going to be exploited that often if we b/f ? It’s way cheaper than cc cc cc or bc cf or bc cc cc.

I don’t see average villains raising hh or Q9- or Tx with anything like enough frequency to make me lose sleep. Typical V will flat all worse hands and draws.

I’d want history that specific V was capable of raising worse (to see where they were st or w/e) or raising draws. But even if they raise draws then any AKJ98 or heart is a danger card ott, so we’re in a hole and guessing.

B/f seems ok
Checking is probably ok and I don’t mind being under-repped on this texture, but I’m way happier with a turn check-check than V barrelling
Bc cc cc and bc cf both have flies imho

we should definitely bet on the flop.
I think folding is ok. Raising with 3 handed not 2-handed! seems like a raise for value.
Even if he raises with draws you are bad spot and there are not good turn river cards
Its quite easy fold. Better question arises with aq...

I agree with this. I definitely don't want to bet all my AK/AJ combos.

Well the result is that the hero check raised all-in on the turn and was snap called by TT.

I guess I could check in this spot, but the problem is that there really aren't any great turn cards. I think given how big the raise from the villain was on the flop, it's not that exploitable just to pitch it there. Once we get to the turn, it's kind of tough to let it go, given that villain is less likely to have a 6.

Knowing the results of the hand may skew my thought process a little bit. I do think we want to mix bets and checks with Qx here. I think we'd want to always bet AQ and KQ, but maybe with QJ/Q9 we mix betting and checking and maybe mostly checking our worst Qx. I think I'd prefer to bet when we have some additional backdoor equity, like QsJs or QsJd, and check when we don't. But I don't think it's crazy either way.

When we get raised, I think QJ is probably fine to fold. We'll have AQ/KQ here, we'll have Q6s and QT, we'll have all the sets. We should have some of our strongest draws we can continue with as well. When a hand is close to the bottom of our value betting range three-way on the flop, it can't be too big of an error to fold it to a raise.

As played, I think we almost always fold turn. I'd expect villain to check turn with flush draws at some reasonable frequency when the board pairs and we call a c/r, so the second barrel (even though it's small) is super polar. That's why I dislike the turn jam - because at this point, villain really is saying they have a better TP (or better) plus combo draws and we're almost never getting those to fold. Jamming probably just gets all of his air and marginal draws to fold.

If I think this player is super bluffy and aggro, I can see calling turn to see if villain barrels river and calling off if the board bricks. But that's a super high-variance line.

Checking is more appropriate when you open utg and get called by BTN , his range will be stronger. It's easy cbet 3 way w/ BB involved.

Won't read on much into his turn sizing, his draws/bluffs with an overcard should use the same.
Crying turn to protect is better vs spewy guys who can raise too much and follow it all what they shouldn't do.

Generally its viable to c/c again unblocking a lot of draws, folding is also viable on softer tables.

Looks like a lot of people want to b/f QJ on this board. How wide should we be bluff raising them on the flop to exploit?

Having less then a 2pair or set is tricky at this level against a stack more then 2x as hero..