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03-23-2021 , 05:45 PM
about 3-4 levels into day 2 and ~175 players left. 130 would be ITM

Blinds are 1/2/2k, im around (~150k) action folds to CO(~300k) who is a poker pro with over $1m in winnings. I looked up everyone on hendon when the table redraw for day 2 of course.

CO opens to 4.5k, im in SB with AA and i raise to 11k.
I think a new level just started and my brain was still 3b sizing compared to the last one... im realizing this is too low now.

action to CO he calls, flop is KQ8
i lead 15k, CO calls
Turn is 9

i check / he checks. i check here for pot control? i feel like i should've bet though looking back

river is 4
obv im a bit unhappy that the BD flush got there, but also not sure what BDFD he'd really be calling flop with. i lead out 23k thinking he's going to call most top pair, two pair, sets.....raise any miracle flush he may have it.

he doesnt take too long and announces all in. i tank for a bit and realize im not holding the A makes this a very tough call. I'm 50/50 on he hit his BDFD or this is some type of JJ/TT or something he decided to turn into a bluff (im a PLO cash game player, and i def think hes capable of bluffing with some blockers to the straight or flush?).

i figure i still have a good stack size left, have been playing well and will fold to continue in the tourney and find a better spot.

i do know the result of the hand but ill wait to post later.

parts i f'd up
1) pre flop raise sizing
2) confused if i bet flop/bet turn/x river? or x flop/bet turn/bet river?

edit: $1M Guarantee but had around 1150 entrants or something
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03-24-2021 , 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Uoopity321
about 3-4 levels into day 2 and ~175 players left. 130 would be ITM

Blinds are 1/2/2k, im around (~150k) action folds to CO(~300k) who is a poker pro with over $1m in winnings. I looked up everyone on hendon when the table redraw for day 2 of course.

CO opens to 4.5k, im in SB with AA and i raise to 11k.
I think a new level just started and my brain was still 3b sizing compared to the last one... im realizing this is too low now.

action to CO he calls, flop is KQ8
i lead 15k, CO calls
Turn is 9

i check / he checks. i check here for pot control? i feel like i should've bet though looking back

river is 4
obv im a bit unhappy that the BD flush got there, but also not sure what BDFD he'd really be calling flop with. i lead out 23k thinking he's going to call most top pair, two pair, sets.....raise any miracle flush he may have it.

he doesnt take too long and announces all in. i tank for a bit and realize im not holding the A makes this a very tough call. I'm 50/50 on he hit his BDFD or this is some type of JJ/TT or something he decided to turn into a bluff (im a PLO cash game player, and i def think hes capable of bluffing with some blockers to the straight or flush?).

i figure i still have a good stack size left, have been playing well and will fold to continue in the tourney and find a better spot.

i do know the result of the hand but ill wait to post later.

parts i f'd up
1) pre flop raise sizing
2) confused if i bet flop/bet turn/x river? or x flop/bet turn/bet river?

edit: $1M Guarantee but had around 1150 entrants or something
You don't think he could call flop w AJ, AT, or JT?

Do you think he can have AQ here and is turning his hand into a bluff, knowing you can't have the nut flush?
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03-24-2021 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by msw1984
You don't think he could call flop w AJ, AT, or JT?

Do you think he can have AQ here and is turning his hand into a bluff, knowing you can't have the nut flush?
yes he totally can. also he shoved the river not the turn, so AQs wouldnt be a bluff he'd have the nut flush. i mean we are holding two A as blockers as well , but hard to put him on some other hand he would try to bluff besides maybe KJ, JJ, TT?

didnt mean it as a literal miracle. either way did i play this ok up to the river bet point or anything different i should have done
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03-24-2021 , 08:59 AM
I like betting the turn. Very tough spot - I guess most of the time we're capped checking back the turn. I wonder if he had AsTs if he bets the turn - maybe he checks back QsJs. I'm thinking we should call here if the villain is capable - if we're capped this is the top of that range, and really he only reps spade hands which a lot would bet the turn.
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03-24-2021 , 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by msw1984
You don't think he could call flop w AJ, AT, or JT?

Do you think he can have AQ here and is turning his hand into a bluff, knowing you can't have the nut flush?
I meant can he have AQx and turn his one pair, nut flush blocker, into a bluff.
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03-24-2021 , 09:23 AM
tough spot, but here are my thoughts

1. I think betting the turn is better than checking being OOP. But If he has a K or even a hand like QT, QJ, he will likely call a turn bet. I think if the turn gets checked, you are praying the river is a brick. Otherwise, it might go check/check and you have miss a lot of value with AA in a 3 bet pot.

2. Your river bet is a bit small and might have induced the villain. Your hand looks like It is AK, maybe AJ, the villain might think you play AQ this way on this board. Your hand looks like it's trying to get value.

3. Given that you check the turn, when most players would barrel the turn if they picked up a nut flush draw, your range looks capped.
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03-27-2021 , 03:05 AM
Raise more pre
Check raise the connected broadway flop and end it
If he checks back, then cc cc it out

(If JT makes the nuts then someone has it )
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03-27-2021 , 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsilver
Raise more pre
Check raise the connected broadway flop and end it
If he checks back, then cc cc it out

(If JT makes the nuts then someone has it )
x/r the flop? what hands are going to continue that dont beat us there? and we fold out everything else?
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03-27-2021 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by oldsilver
Raise more pre
Check raise the connected broadway flop and end it
If he checks back, then cc cc it out

(If JT makes the nuts then someone has it )
Aa almost never checks this board. I’m almost sure it’s a 100% cb
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03-27-2021 , 04:15 PM
Anyway your hand otf i don’t like your size. I don’t think the half pot ever gets used. I think this spot gets two sizings the 1/3 and the big size. I think hands like 888/qqq/ and aa specifically want to go for like 75-90% and hands like ak/kq get put in the 1/3 due to blockers and whatnot
Ott I don’t think checking is a thing. You’re only losing to j10s really I gues j10o might make it in there but your hand especially without a spade really needs protection. So I think you want to bet big for value protection. You lose to some stuff but not enough stuff imo to wanna try and take this passive /pot control line u did. (It’s not plo aa is still doing really well ott)
Anyways otr - you never have a flush for this sizing - but you’re at the top of your range for the 1/3 size otr (looks like 23 into like 60-65 or w/e) if I was you I’d run a sim for the river play and give myself 1/3 - 75- 90/ 150% sizing and see which hands are getting into which sizings. Then vs the shove it’s pretty easy to see what the calling range should look like and then you can make some assumptions about what u think ip is doing and decide
I’d guess aa without the spade is losing a lot and aa with the spade is probably a +ev call
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03-30-2021 , 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Anyway your hand otf i don’t like your size. I don’t think the half pot ever gets used. I think this spot gets two sizings the 1/3 and the big size. I think hands like 888/qqq/ and aa specifically want to go for like 75-90% and hands like ak/kq get put in the 1/3 due to blockers and whatnot
Ott I don’t think checking is a thing. You’re only losing to j10s really I gues j10o might make it in there but your hand especially without a spade really needs protection. So I think you want to bet big for value protection. You lose to some stuff but not enough stuff imo to wanna try and take this passive /pot control line u did. (It’s not plo aa is still doing really well ott)
Anyways otr - you never have a flush for this sizing - but you’re at the top of your range for the 1/3 size otr (looks like 23 into like 60-65 or w/e) if I was you I’d run a sim for the river play and give myself 1/3 - 75- 90/ 150% sizing and see which hands are getting into which sizings. Then vs the shove it’s pretty easy to see what the calling range should look like and then you can make some assumptions about what u think ip is doing and decide
I’d guess aa without the spade is losing a lot and aa with the spade is probably a +ev call

yea i have been playing PLO cash which is my main game, and definitely think it messed with my line here on the turn. good call out on that
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