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Originally Posted by alay9
These are great and all (some not as great). I am very certain this is not a shove against this field. They’ll call with ATo, I don’t want a flip. I want the fulcrum on me. And with 11BBs I still have fold equity for the future.
But the real question I had is post-flop..
Would love thoughts there..?
POST FLOP:
I'm going with this hand if I cbet small here. After the preflop action we have 7225 left and the pot is 4200 + antes. If we bet less than 1/4 pot on flop (1000) and get jammed on, the pot is now 12,450 + antes and we have 6225 left. Our hand functions the same as QQ here; TT+ is 3! pre. We lose to a King obviously, but if there's a chance our opponent can jam with, say 7x, or A3 perhaps or some kind of BDS+FD we have to call, especially as you describe him as being loose/aggressive. It sucks, here we are. If we are going to play 99 passively (or any other hand) I prefer a limp so we have more options post flop as we keep SPR a little bigger.
Let's say we choose to check to our opponent - we need to decide why we are checking. Is it to check/jam? Check?fold? Or check/call? I wouldn't be check folding here; check calling allows villain to set his own price to see a turn card - if he has a hand like QT that's disastrous - and, let's say we check call, what are we doing on overcard turns? on blank turns? On a 7? If we continue to check to V he might just shut down and check back, giving him 2 cards for the price of his flop bet. So I prefer check/jamming here of these options.
Overall, I'd probably bet flop and call if I get jammed on, so we don't need to bet small as I'd be getting it in anyway.
We lose to Kx, 77 / 33 - but if V is as aggressive/loose as you say, he will be 3! a portion of his Kx pre and maybe 77. TT/JJ/QQ would definitely 3! pre, so like I said earlier, 99 functions the same as QQ on this texture, so, if you took this line with QQ, would you be folding that if you c-bet and got jammed on on this flop? Or if you checked to V and he bet?
Just my opinion, but this would be my approach to playing this hand post flop. The fact that post flop of this stack size with this exact holding gets a little murky is exactly why you should shove pre (although I'm sure you're by now aware of this an I get your reasons for not wanting to flip in a tournament where you have an edge).
Interesting spot post to consider, thanks for posting