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01-18-2019 , 09:47 PM
$1150 buy in live tournament, table full of recreationals

Level 1: pre ante, 50/100


UTG+2 limp, CO limp, I Raise 500 on BU with KsQc, blinds fold, call, call.

Flop Kd2cQd (pot: 1650)

Check, CO donk leads 800, I raise to 2500, fold, call.

Turn Kd2cQd5h (pot: 6650)

Check, I go all in for 6800, he calls with 22.

Thoughts on hand? Are we going broke here always?
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01-18-2019 , 10:57 PM
Key here is what hands a rec player in a $1100 tourney is going to limp/call and then lead with into the pre-flop raiser. Discounting Aces based on pre-flop limp, it can only be a King or better. Maybe Adxd, but he's much more likely to check/call with a flush draw and if he's on the nut flush draw, chances are he'll be very sticky and not folding after the donk lead. So, I'm thinking call rather than raise on flop. Then call a turn lead (worried about 22) but keep pot small.

As played, when villain donk/calls the post-flop raise but checks the turn, you can still put him on Kx or Adxd but why would you want to push him off the hand by shoving if he has either of those? Is villain calling K-J here (unless KdJd)? Probably better to check back the turn and keep the pot manageable figuring that you can still get whatever value is there on the river if villain has a weaker King. If villain bets the river hero can call, or if villain checks hero can value bet but not necessarily a push. If villain check-raises river, can hero fold? Maybe not, but give villain a chance to lead into smaller pot and hero can call and tell him "nice hand."
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01-18-2019 , 11:03 PM
My opinions:
My range has way more nutted hands than villan.
I'm very unbalanced here because villain is a rec fish, just playing purely to exploit.

My range on turn: QQ,KK,JTdd,KQ
Villain range: FDs,SDs,22

My sizings:
I think preflop 500 is good
Flop raise is to set up turn SPR 1 for a jam

Tournament Level.1 pre-ante: 50/100 blinds

Starting Stack: 10,000

Hand Replay:
http://www.pokerhandreplays.com/view.php/id/9395572
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01-18-2019 , 11:09 PM
more pre if you want to iso but i doubt it makes a scrap of difference to a rec holding 22. his decision point is closer to 1K, which is ridiculous given 10K starting stack, but hello opening event.

with multis possible e.g. A2dd AJdd ATdd JTdd it's tough to fold. however, local recs here tend to be more passive with strong draws and often take a cc line rather than leading. but that's not true of all.

even if you float, then you're probably facing 800 flop, 2.5K turn, jam river - which doesn't help.

was this day 4 or early 5? if day 5, then it's really tough because there are no more flights or entries available, and recs and pros alike are more likely peddling value lines than bombing away with huge draws into a field full of rec stations.

footnote: i played yesterday and got through, but found myself playing some unusually defensive and small-ball lines with the tiny 100BB starting stack.
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01-19-2019 , 01:38 AM
Looks fine. Just a cooler.

What are you doing with a hand like AK or AA with no diamonds?
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01-21-2019 , 04:46 AM
Sry for me it seems cooler.
We have to raise opps donk bet. No need to play it "controlled way"
BTW lots of donk could lead with JT to get cheap turn river card...
By raising flop We get value any kind ok Kx mayby Qx,JT
I would raise mayby 2700 or 2800 to jam blank turn


Only bad thing is after turn we wont get any value which wont beat me. But we have to shove it anyway to protect ant draws
And rec players could call there Aa or KJ as well...

Last edited by maletaja81; 01-21-2019 at 04:51 AM.
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01-21-2019 , 05:29 AM
Donking on this texture already marks him as what Nick Howard would call a volatile profile. Its so erratically far away from current theory that it's asking too much to try to logically deduce precisely what he has. Most important thing with donk bets is to see showdowns and make (mental) notes on which particular imbalanced kink each villain has.

So all we know is he is interested in the pot, draws are possible, and top 2 beats most hands so I think you play is good. Raise flop bigger though to set up a smaller turn jam.
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01-21-2019 , 12:09 PM
Mayby even bet small in turn not pot size.
Rec player want to draw Kx or Qx type of hands. Pot size bet could scare them away
Rec players afraid of allinns, but not small continations bets
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