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 MM, few close spots deep  MM, few close spots deep

03-17-2012 , 07:12 PM
V is 18/18 (25 hands). 3b-isoed 4bb stack w/ 88 from MP once.
$6.5 abi breakeven player.
I run 25/23.

PokerStars - $10+$1|3500/7000 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

MP: 111,029.00
MP+1: 149,568.00
LP: 405,328.00
CO: 303,411.00
BTN: 66,248.00
SB: 85,019.00
BB: 157,222.00
Hero (UTG): 237,448.00
UTG+1: 46,972.00

MP posts ante 875.00, MP+1 posts ante 875.00, LP posts ante 875.00, CO posts ante 875.00, BTN posts ante 875.00, SB posts ante 875.00, BB posts ante 875.00, Hero posts ante 875.00, UTG+1 posts ante 875.00, SB posts SB 3,500.00, BB posts BB 7,000.00

Pre Flop: (18375.00) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to 15,555.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 41,110.00, fold, fold, fold, Hero?

Can`t flat, jam?

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Villain is 33/17. Never stealing.
Mid-stakes player w/ -40% roi.

PokerStars - $10+$1|4000/8000 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BB: 109,154.00
UTG: 147,693.00
UTG+1: 403,453.00
MP: 64,963.00
MP+1: 64,373.00
CO: 79,644.00
BTN: 144,347.00
Hero (SB): 548,618.00

BB posts ante 1,000.00, UTG posts ante 1,000.00, UTG+1 posts ante 1,000.00, MP posts ante 1,000.00, MP+1 posts ante 1,000.00, CO posts ante 1,000.00, BTN posts ante 1,000.00, Hero posts ante 1,000.00, Hero posts SB 4,000.00, BB posts BB 8,000.00

Pre Flop: (20000.00) Hero has J 8

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 8,000.00, Hero calls 4,000.00, BB checks

Flop: (32000.00, 3 players) 6 K 9
Hero bets 18,888.00, fold, BTN raises to 135,347.00 and is all-in, Hero...?

As played, I`m getting 1,6-1 to call and have ~40% equity vs 1 pair hands.
Calling?

Lead flop?
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-17-2012 , 08:06 PM
1. table reads on yourself would useful but I don't think it's a fold too often
2. why are you exactly leading? fold as played...
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-17-2012 , 08:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mashxx
1. table reads on yourself would useful but I don't think it's a fold too often
2. why are you exactly leading? fold as played...
1) samplesizes small. Was moved not long ago. No reads.

2) 30 hands on BTN, which is generally bad. BB is checking worst 80%. Odds look good, can you elaborate on fold?
Though, I also think it`s best.
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-17-2012 , 08:24 PM
AK ran into AA w/ 100 left.......
I hate poker.......... fckn blockers........

Though, he`s never light fr SB vs UTG, right?
Arguments for 4b or flat readless?

PokerStars - $10+$1|15000/30000 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: 1,036,173.00
MP: 276,171.00
MP+1: 750,025.00
LP: 677,042.00
CO: 671,318.00
BTN: 849,527.00
SB: 528,961.00
BB: 261,658.00
Hero (UTG): 717,208.00

UTG+1 posts ante 3,750.00, MP posts ante 3,750.00, MP+1 posts ante 3,750.00, LP posts ante 3,750.00, CO posts ante 3,750.00, BTN posts ante 3,750.00, SB posts ante 3,750.00, BB posts ante 3,750.00, Hero posts ante 3,750.00, SB posts SB 15,000.00, BB posts BB 30,000.00

Pre Flop: (78750.00) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 65,555.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 150,000.00, fold, Hero raises to 713,458.00 and is all-in, SB calls 375,211.00 and is all-in

Flop: (1114172.00, 2 players) K 5 6

Turn: (1114172.00, 2 players) 2

River: (1114172.00, 2 players) T

SB shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 93%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K A (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 7%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 1,114,172.00
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-17-2012 , 09:05 PM
1 - Seems like a super standard 4bet shove.
2 - Perhaps we can check then evaluate shoving? interested what others think.
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-17-2012 , 09:18 PM
1. don't think you can r/f QQ with 30bb.....unless tons of history/soul reads.. super standard I guess..

2. Don't mind the lead, as we could take down OTF tons of the time. but probably make it smaller though. like 11-13kish.. as played. I would fold, not too sure about the maths but I think we not getting good enough odds and ev to call. Plus he might be shoving higher FDs... it he had like 80k..then it's a call..
regard c/c or c/s just hate to passive at this deep though..and would be in a weird spot if he bets like 17k on the flop and shove a none J/8/S turn.....




UL with AK into AA, always tends to hate life when that happens..
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-18-2012 , 03:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Elephants_pride
AK ran into AA w/ 100 left.......
I hate poker.......... fckn blockers........

Though, he`s never light fr SB vs UTG, right?
Arguments for 4b or flat readless?

PokerStars - $10+$1|15000/30000 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

UTG+1: 1,036,173.00
MP: 276,171.00
MP+1: 750,025.00
LP: 677,042.00
CO: 671,318.00
BTN: 849,527.00
SB: 528,961.00
BB: 261,658.00
Hero (UTG): 717,208.00

UTG+1 posts ante 3,750.00, MP posts ante 3,750.00, MP+1 posts ante 3,750.00, LP posts ante 3,750.00, CO posts ante 3,750.00, BTN posts ante 3,750.00, SB posts ante 3,750.00, BB posts ante 3,750.00, Hero posts ante 3,750.00, SB posts SB 15,000.00, BB posts BB 30,000.00

Pre Flop: (78750.00) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 65,555.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 150,000.00, fold, Hero raises to 713,458.00 and is all-in, SB calls 375,211.00 and is all-in

Flop: (1114172.00, 2 players) K 5 6

Turn: (1114172.00, 2 players) 2

River: (1114172.00, 2 players) T

SB shows A A (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 93%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows K A (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 7%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 1,114,172.00
Hey u got one right!




on a side note 80k/c hand 1 and don't lead hand 2 c/shove

Last edited by FatsoFat6969; 03-18-2012 at 03:38 PM. Reason: sizing
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-18-2012 , 09:32 PM
hand 1- wtf easy all in

hand 2 - pretty easy c/r all in, let them take stabs at the pot.
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-19-2012 , 02:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gregz41
hand 1- wtf easy all in

hand 2 - pretty easy c/r all in, let them take stabs at the pot.
pretty much this, but lead in hand 2 is not terrible, you have to fold now imo but c/rai is probably best line
 MM, few close spots deep Quote
03-19-2012 , 04:14 AM
gregz got it right.

h1: 34bb and QQ -> ez gamme.

h2: with the ~35% equity draw, you gotta maximize fold equity, so crai is best option here. u might get him to fold even Kx here. now, u dont have right odds to call.
 MM, few close spots deep Quote

      
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