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9 Tuesday K Gtd. Should I fold on the river? 9 Tuesday K Gtd. Should I fold on the river?

11-30-2017 , 03:07 AM
Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 12 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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SB: 19,902 (165.9 bb)
BB: 9,783 (81.5 bb)
UTG+1: 9,130 (76.1 bb)
UTG+2: 22,730 (189.4 bb)
Hero (MP1): 8,304 (69.2 bb)
MP2: 9,976 (83.1 bb)
MP3: 9,520 (79.3 bb)
CO: 17,938 (149.5 bb)
BTN: 15,466 (128.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Ac Ad
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 276, Hero raises to 812, 2 folds, CO calls 812, 4 folds

Flop: (2,188) 4h 8d 3s (2 players)
Hero bets 944, CO calls 944

Turn: (4,076) 3h (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (4,076) Qh (2 players)
Hero bets 1,238, CO raises to 16,170 and is all-in?

should I call with his allin rerasie?
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11-30-2017 , 09:54 AM
And youre checking the turn because?
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11-30-2017 , 11:49 AM
yeah not checking turn here, what was your reasoning?

As played I guess we fold as villain cant have many bluffs here. Don't think AQ plays this way, maybe pocket KK's does, but we would expect a 4 bet pre.
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11-30-2017 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AmpeFund
And youre checking the turn because?
I put his range on 99-JJ & AK, if he is holding 99-JJ, he might bet the turn, then I could put rest of my chips in by either check raise the turn, or bet the river.
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11-30-2017 , 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by onehandatatime
yeah not checking turn here, what was your reasoning?

As played I guess we fold as villain cant have many bluffs here. Don't think AQ plays this way, maybe pocket KK's does, but we would expect a 4 bet pre.
I did fold. He showed A9s and made flush on the river. It's loose to call preflop 3bet with A9s.
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12-01-2017 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by zhouxx123
...river. It's loose to call preflop 3bet with A9s.
its as loose as bad of a play. You guys are only playin 68 bb eff and what does he do if utg decides to 4 bet?
Thats just a fish in my eyes. He dont get any reasonable pot odds and cant balance his 3bet cold call range and have to fold to any further preflop action. = 100% Fish.
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12-01-2017 , 04:14 PM
Bigger pre
Flop fine
80-120% ott
River fine
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12-03-2017 , 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky.luke
its as loose as bad of a play. You guys are only playin 68 bb eff and what does he do if utg decides to 4 bet?
Thats just a fish in my eyes. He dont get any reasonable pot odds and cant balance his 3bet cold call range and have to fold to any further preflop action. = 100% Fish.
Exactly.
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12-03-2017 , 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lolposting2016
Bigger pre
Flop fine
80-120% ott
River fine
Umh, I agree with that I should bet the turn and bet big.
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12-03-2017 , 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky.luke
its as loose as bad of a play. You guys are only playin 68 bb eff and what does he do if utg decides to 4 bet?
Thats just a fish in my eyes. He dont get any reasonable pot odds and cant balance his 3bet cold call range and have to fold to any further preflop action. = 100% Fish.
Lolwat
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12-04-2017 , 04:29 AM
really bad play from v, the pre and flop call is really bad.

turn is a clear bet, we almost always have the best hand on a very dry board

as played fold river
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12-05-2017 , 11:43 AM
Pre is fine. Facing an EP open it's also ok to just flat. Flatting with premiums protects your entire range there.

Flop is fine, should generally be c-betting less than 1/2 pot on dry boards like this with our entire range after 3-betting pre. Agree that turn is a bet - don't think we need to go huge because the board is relatively dry, but 2.5-3K seems about right. I'd want to do that with most of my overpairs there, plus hands that picked up equity on the turn like backdoor flush draws.

As played, call with overpairs with a heart, fold overpairs without a heart.
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12-09-2017 , 12:33 PM
3bet larger pre, this is offensive 3bet sizing this deep,i dont mind defending A9s vs that actually

i ll pbb bet flop smaller and turn larger, as played would bet river larger and fold to a raise. dont cap yourself ott.
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12-11-2017 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wowsooooted
really bad play from v, the pre and flop call is really bad.

turn is a clear bet, we almost always have the best hand on a very dry board

as played fold river

Agree, I really should bet the turn as we probably have the best hand on this flop, protect our equity
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12-11-2017 , 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jpgiro
Pre is fine. Facing an EP open it's also ok to just flat. Flatting with premiums protects your entire range there.

Flop is fine, should generally be c-betting less than 1/2 pot on dry boards like this with our entire range after 3-betting pre. Agree that turn is a bet - don't think we need to go huge because the board is relatively dry, but 2.5-3K seems about right. I'd want to do that with most of my overpairs there, plus hands that picked up equity on the turn like backdoor flush draws.

As played, call with overpairs with a heart, fold overpairs without a heart.
I usually bet the turn same size as you suggest, but in this particularly spot I just want to induce a bluff from V, anyway, I played bad on the turn.
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12-12-2017 , 05:53 AM
Bet the turn next time for sure.... as played probably woulda folded as well. Bad call pre by Villain w A9hh...flop call by villian I don't mind if he thinks he has an advantage postflop and have a plan for turns.. He floated then picked up the nut flush draw when turn goes chk/chk...He most likely would of called a big turn bet based on his preflop action but you gotta bet the turn to deny your opponents equity. Unfortunate spot.
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