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100k 570 facing triple check shove 100k 570 facing triple check shove

12-02-2018 , 09:03 AM
Blind 1200/2400 blind.

MP mawg (100k) raises to 5500

HJ, probably biggest crusher in casino (75k) flat

CO, HERO (90k) Raise to 19k (AKo)

MP fold

HJ call

Flop: 10J6r

check,check

Turn: K (backdoor flush draw, hero doesnt block)

check,check

River: J

check, 16000, allin in for 40000 more.

hero - ?
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12-02-2018 , 02:32 PM
Cbet flop. Your line is way too passive.
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12-05-2018 , 02:49 PM
no info about V? he is biggest crusher in casino, yeah who gives a fk? how does he play? is he loose? is he tight?

I'm calling this one off in most cases, Hero is underrepped and looks very capped.
I think I typically am betting flop to set up a turn shove, but again, barring reads, this thread is kind of pointless.
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12-05-2018 , 04:29 PM
Call I guess. Guy You Saw Win A Couple Of Big Pots Once probably knows that for you to have air you'd have had to triple delay a suited connector type hand, after having the nerve to light 3bet Guy You Saw Win A Couple Of Big Pots Once.

He's not gonna hero call with QT.

But realistically they always have it.
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12-05-2018 , 05:18 PM
Payoff wizard here, here's my take

With {AQ, AJ} blocked and discounted due to no 3bet by V,

AND {TT, JJ, KK} either discounted or totally eliminated due to "biggest crusher" (whatever that nebulous term means) not reraising himself,

AND {KJ, QJ, JT. Q9, 66} either blocked and/or discounted bc it seems kinda bad and LP-fishy to go call/call pre OOP w/ those hands vs pretty big 3bet sizing,


AND because who the **** x's thrice w/ a straight or trips or a boat here anyway when you can hero rivers on this texture a lot wider than you can stab them w/ air (what pure air do have in your range that would just open muck to river lead anyway--hence V should be leading river w/ his fat value almost always),

AND with a 3:1 price being laid,

AND this probably being the very tippy-top of our range OTR,

I'm calling this all day. But like bearer said, they just always have it so be prepared to lose.

Cbet flop like 1/3 pot, you have a massive range advantage and desperately need to be repping it on this flop.

And if you're hellbent on taking an ultra passive line going to the river for some reason, then thin vbet the river much, much smaller, like 2bb. What were you hoping he heros with on this texture, with this line, for nearly 30% of his stack?

Last edited by jl121; 12-05-2018 at 05:30 PM.
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12-05-2018 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RalphWaldoEmerson
no info about V? he is biggest crusher in casino, yeah who gives a fk? how does he play? is he loose? is he tight?

I'm calling this one off in most cases, Hero is underrepped and looks very capped.
I think I typically am betting flop to set up a turn shove, but again, barring reads, this thread is kind of pointless.
This is spot on. What’s the point of 3 betting pre if you are going to take such a passive post flop line. I wouldn’t play tournaments if you are going to check back that flop and turn lmao.

Like Ralph Waldo said, I would c bet flop to set up a pot sized bet left for turn or river. As run out, I’m ripping turn. River is comical. Jx and straights go there bc you don’t Cbet. Idc if villian is biggest crusher. Just Cbet flopand pile turn. Ez game.
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