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I'm also not a lawyer, but let me see if I can also offer an example of what it could mean if you insisted the operator of these clubs "received economic benefit". If that were the case, you also need to prosecute Papa Johns, because my private poker group, that meets at my home, always orders pizza from Papa Johns. Therefore, Papa Johns has received economic benefit from our private poker game.

So, if you aren't ready to go after Papa Johns for this prosecution, I don't see a logic which actually fits for the prosecution of the operator. Its just not rational or reasonable.

And that’s why you’re not a lawyer. Papa Johns is not “engaging in gambling in a private place,” which is also required to be 1) charged with an offense and 2) claim as an affirmative defense.

03-29-2018 , 02:34 PM

#727

zizek

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,177

Oh boy, more legal discussion.

03-30-2018 , 05:50 PM

#728

sdwhitt

centurion

Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 188

Seriously, can we stop with the law discussion?

03-30-2018 , 06:23 PM

#729

donkey's

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 12

Well seems no one knows about the Houstonain on 6 and Bellaire.
Having 600.00 freeroll on Sat at 3 pm

04-01-2018 , 02:10 PM

#730

FearfulFerret

stranger

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shredly

Hey guys visiting Austin in 2 weeks what’s the best room to play in atm?

Your other major option is The Lodge up in Round Rock. Decent traffic, and the major advantage is that they run a variety of games rather than just hold 'em. There's a Sunday 5/10 HORSE game and a Thursday 1/2/5 Mitt game.

04-01-2018 , 10:20 PM

#731

DavisM98

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 265

Quote:

Originally Posted by FearfulFerret

Thanks for the information. If you don't mind, please enlighten me -- what is a 1/2/5 Mitt game?

04-04-2018 , 02:24 PM

#732

TonyTexan56

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavisM98

Thanks for the information. If you don't mind, please enlighten me -- what is a 1/2/5 Mitt game?

5 card Omaha H/L. Also called Big O.

04-05-2018 , 07:56 PM

#733

Texasholdemmike

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Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 100

ABC 13 is going to air an investigative story about all the fee based poker clubs. Should be Interesting.

04-06-2018 , 08:23 AM

#734

TonyTexan56

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Texasholdemmike

ABC 13 is going to air an investigative story about all the fee based poker clubs. Should be Interesting.

http://abc13.com/legal-gambling-how-...ality/3306850/

04-06-2018 , 11:06 AM

#735

Makonnen

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,372

Meh. Nothing new. I would expect one of these every 90 days until something explicit happens to clear or incriminate/raid these spots.

04-06-2018 , 04:50 PM

#736

zizek

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Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,177

I really wish they'd stop giving interviews for this. If they're doing the story anyway, fine, but based on their texts/Facebook promo's it's like POPC went out of their way to promote this. It's very stupid - I don't want to kindle another legal debate, but there are at least a handful of respected legal opinions who believe this model is illegal. Right or wrong, if there's even a small chance they get shut down, why risk it?

04-06-2018 , 09:32 PM

#737

notyoursmine

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Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 134

Quote:

Originally Posted by zizek

Exactly my thoughts. They think the advertising is worth the risk. But if I’m clearing $300k+ a month, I’d probably keep my mouth shut for a while and just reap the benefits.
Companies advertise when they aren’t doing well, not when they are.

04-07-2018 , 10:17 AM

#738

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,509

Quote:

Companies advertise when they aren’t doing well, not when they are.

Nope. Companies that use that strategy are in a death-spiral. Not going to get in to the risk/law part of the discussion, but basic marketing is that you have to keep momentum.

04-07-2018 , 06:31 PM

#739

TonyTexan56

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Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 42

Quote:

Originally Posted by notyoursmine

Companies advertise when they aren’t doing well, not when they are.

Lulz. Coca Cola, Budweiser and Apple say hi.

04-07-2018 , 08:43 PM

#740

notyoursmine

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 134

Clearly you guys aren’t in advertising.

but since I am I’ll not regale you with boring stories.

04-07-2018 , 09:52 PM

#741

DavisM98

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 265

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyTexan56

5 card Omaha H/L. Also called Big O.

Thank you. That's a great game! Just never heard it called Mitt before.

04-07-2018 , 11:50 PM

#742

Makonnen

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,372

Heard a rumor tonight that the old Magic Island building--59 between Kirby & Shepherd--was being built out as another room. Anyone know anything?

04-08-2018 , 05:31 PM

#743

sdwhitt

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 188

Wow, that’s be a huge room. Can’t imagine it being cheap rent. Theres nothing close to downtown so it could be a winner.

04-08-2018 , 06:36 PM

#744

Makonnen

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Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,372

Quote:

Originally Posted by sdwhitt

Wow, that’s be a huge room. Can’t imagine it being cheap rent. Theres nothing close to downtown so it could be a winner.

Building has been abandoned for years now, so rent/purchase may not be as high as expected. Renovation costs certainly would be, tho.

04-11-2018 , 01:59 PM

#745

Makonnen

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,372

Anyone got a trip report for Freerolls?

http://freerollspokerclub.com/

Claims this is their opening week. I would imagine as the place hosting the WPT event, they need to make a splash in the market, and certainly the dayfee would be attractive to some.

04-11-2018 , 03:42 PM

#746

michelle227

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Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 2,177

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makonnen

Building has been abandoned for years now, so rent/purchase may not be as high as expected. Renovation costs certainly would be, tho.

More than abandoned...didn't it have a fire after one of the hurricanes a decade or so ago? Have to figure it would smell worse than the Astrodome after all that time with no measurable activity...

04-11-2018 , 03:47 PM

#747

JobRunsBetter

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Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 331

Tell you what, legal or not... POPC has a hell of a little business humming along over here. I’m in the H for the day on business, finished meetings a little early and showed up here around the time they opened at 1:00. Two tables were already well underway and 90 mins later they’ve got ~5 full tables.

It’s a shame I have to fly back to Dallas in a couple hours.

Poker is alive and well in Houston. Getting paid off like the ftp days online and as I type this AJo just won a 3 way all in for 450 BBs.

04-12-2018 , 01:38 AM

#748

sdwhitt

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Join Date: Sep 2014 Posts: 188

Just got back from Freerolls. VIP was a nice rooom and they really improved it. Looks fantastic. Dealers were good and nice tables. They had a $50 tourney and winner got a seat for WPTDS and around $800 with 2nd and 3rd getting paid. They had the final table live streamed on Facebook. Cards had IR chips in them. Fun, something different. Place was ran very well and they were very receptive to ideas and input. This weekend they’re having a $5k freeroll. Recommend.