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02-01-2018 , 03:18 PM
Here is the proof https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/bbb38...eedfff777c.pdf
The huge anti gambling lobby adds new stuff to the houston version of their site.


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Originally Posted by HTwnPokerGuy
As classy as your profile photo...

I've heard it from multiple people now inside and outside Mint. It was also openly discussed at my table the last time I played there. We've got Mint Poker shills in here...are they denying it?

Again, you membership club owners/employees should be focused on WHY these cease and desist letters keep coming...not trying to pretend them away with bluster and name-calling.
02-01-2018 , 03:25 PM
If you take tips you are ILLEGAL and why do all the tip places say they are legal lol
Post oak lets cash play and is illegal.

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Originally Posted by HTwnPokerGuy
Oh Lord this list...the blind leading the blind.

I'm pretty sure Mint Poker doesn't think they are an underground poker room. Here's how they describe themselves:
"Mint Poker is the largest legal poker room in Texas and the only city approved card room in the Houston area."

All of these clubs use the same basic model....which is the same model that was being used in Dallas...everyone ripped off Texas Card House. Everyone's using the same flawed approach.
02-01-2018 , 03:32 PM
https://www.americangaming.org/
huge lobby group

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Originally Posted by LeGrosB
I take it that this "Stop Illegal Gambling in Houston" group is an invention of the underground and unquestionably illegal game operators.
02-01-2018 , 03:36 PM
funny, if you want a more legal place this is what you have to do. There are those dealers that do charity events and wanna be dealers who will be happy to take the 15 to start. The problem is the players dont care. Most dont understand the money they save not tipping and they wont pay more to play because all the other places are cheaper.

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Originally Posted by clivestraddle
In houston...you aint gonna find dealers that want to work at the wages being proposed by any of these owners - they have been uber spoiled for many years of 500-$1000 nights.

These dealers would and will rather starve than take 15-20/hr - this will lead to hiring of people that will work for those wages - people seem to think that you can train a monkey to deal cards but as an experienced game runner..i would rather .....do a lot of things that are painful to me ...than deal cards..it is hard - mentally boring - thankless job - I probably dealt a decade before carpel tunnel set in and frankly I would not deal no matter how much money it made. I don't enjoy it and like my ex's - I don't do things I don't love to do.

That being said - already we are seeing poor quality - untrained people thrown into the seat with not a club about what the rules and intricacies of the game are - and being out manned 9 or 10-1 against with people that not only know every single rule but are also keen to push any angle they can exploit are at the mercies of both the management and the player.

I see all the dealers i have fired for various causes hired by many of these rooms - the owners often have no choice to hire these people that I would not trust with a wooden nickel or have any consideration of a normal employee of showing up on time or even notifying you when they can't make it.

I am pro-dealer but unfortunately the majority should be asking "would you like fries with that" as opposed to thinking they are in disposable.
02-01-2018 , 03:37 PM
Pay the 5000.00 and 100 per table a month and you to can be on poker atlas.

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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
Post Oak will have the largest number of games/tables running. They are on Poker Atlas so you can see what is running there is you download the app.
02-01-2018 , 03:40 PM
He commented on a fb poker group post that they changed a few things and its no longer a seat rental, facility use charge.

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Originally Posted by HTwnPokerGuy
SIGH put up a post confirming it's business as usual at Mint, based on interviews with players there. Their post also ties current activities back to the city's C&D letter and makes the argument Mint is still violating gambling laws despite a few cosmetic changes:

https://www.stopillegalgamblinghoust...ities-Continue
02-01-2018 , 03:42 PM
Buddy went, said the valet had to drive the other valet to get the car since was stashed way down the street in an apartment complex. What people dont get is all the valet clubs have no parking and your car is left is some dark parking lot way down the road with no security. Who wants that?

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Originally Posted by clivestraddle
Supposedly Prime REQUIRES valet parking
02-01-2018 , 03:45 PM
Poking the bear and flaunting you are a POKER ROOM is pure stupidity. Post oak posted they are doing a BJ tourney and I posted when is the craps and slots coming and he replied soon.


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Originally Posted by HTwnPokerGuy
That's ridiculous from an obvious poker room shill.

My issue is these clowns are all pushing a broken model that's going to get everyone shut down...the city riled up...law enforcement riled up...a bunch of bad press...and eventually the legislature riled up.

In the long run, this is bad for poker...and is just like what happened with online poker.
02-01-2018 , 04:00 PM
Here is a direct link to the letter requesting the Attorney General to make an opinion. I find it odd that she refers to poker players as "gamblers" so clearly she is not pro poker and this is in no way to help the poker movement. https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov...f/RQ0209KP.pdf

Now we need a lawyer who knows how long these take or if this is posturing for votes or this req happens all the time and takes forever for an answer.

Greed is what will bring all the clubs down.
02-01-2018 , 04:55 PM
Oh yay...yet ANOTHER newly registered shill.

Requests for Opinion are a common occurrence. Some are answered quick and others take several months. They do not carry the force of law like some people seem to believe they will. Some give such a vague response that the requestor is left even more confused than they were BEFORE the Opinion was sought. It is essentially the same as with the contracted attorney that allegedly wrote the letter to Mint. And as far as I know, no organization has yet sought to address the issues with that letter that were pointed out earlier in this thread...

And since the requestor is from Victoria, you may reasonably expect it to have precisely zero impact given that Harris County law enforcement and prosecutors have taken zero interest in moving to shut any rooms down. I would be more concerned if a request was coming from someone with their thumb on Harris or Travis County (the two primary locations where rooms are operating.

Reviewing where the Requestor is getting their campaign contributions from will make for an interesting read though...may give a better clue into who precisely is behind the farcical Houston band of idiots.
02-01-2018 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by donkey's
Here is the proof https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/bbb38...eedfff777c.pdf
The huge anti gambling lobby adds new stuff to the houston version of their site.
Anybody actually read this pdf?
02-01-2018 , 05:19 PM
Some interesting reading at the Election Commission pages related to registered lobbyists...just working through the list of persons who are registered in the 'gambling' category, I already came across Jeri Brooks on behalf of Landry's.

Right now, I am working on those with Houston registration addresses.

I do also find it peculiar that SIGH is SO proud of their efforts that they cannot be bothered to provide the public with any manner of mailing address. This suggests to a greater degree that they are a shill operation. If they were a legitimate outfit, they wouldn't be taking the steps they do to hide who they are...after all, the 'national' page run by the AGA has no compunction about providing contact information.
02-01-2018 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Sellout
Anybody actually read this pdf?
yes, and a response was made several posts back that also highlighted errors in tracking and pointing out that Gregg is a contract attorney, to say nothing of not being a prosecutor for anything beyond a Class C misdemeanor (which means that if Harris County isn't interested, no prosecution will occur).
02-01-2018 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
Oh yay...yet ANOTHER newly registered shill.

Requests for Opinion are a common occurrence. Some are answered quick and others take several months. They do not carry the force of law like some people seem to believe they will. Some give such a vague response that the requestor is left even more confused than they were BEFORE the Opinion was sought. It is essentially the same as with the contracted attorney that allegedly wrote the letter to Mint. And as far as I know, no organization has yet sought to address the issues with that letter that were pointed out earlier in this thread...

And since the requestor is from Victoria, you may reasonably expect it to have precisely zero impact given that Harris County law enforcement and prosecutors have taken zero interest in moving to shut any rooms down. I would be more concerned if a request was coming from someone with their thumb on Harris or Travis County (the two primary locations where rooms are operating.

Reviewing where the Requestor is getting their campaign contributions from will make for an interesting read though...may give a better clue into who precisely is behind the farcical Houston band of idiots.
An attorney general opinion cleared the way for bar poker tournaments to expand in Texas without fear of prosecution.

An attorney general opinion by the current Attorney General effectively ended daily fantasy sports in Texas.

This request is big news...as will be the opinion when it comes out.
02-01-2018 , 09:24 PM
Looks like Abilene police are targeting The Roosevelt Club, a new membership poker club there, before they can open.

http://www.bigcountryhomepage.com/ne...ning/948393286
02-01-2018 , 09:37 PM
Why is it when you dont like the reply they are a shill?

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Originally Posted by michelle227
Oh yay...yet ANOTHER newly registered shill.

Requests for Opinion are a common occurrence. Some are answered quick and others take several months. They do not carry the force of law like some people seem to believe they will. Some give such a vague response that the requestor is left even more confused than they were BEFORE the Opinion was sought. It is essentially the same as with the contracted attorney that allegedly wrote the letter to Mint. And as far as I know, no organization has yet sought to address the issues with that letter that were pointed out earlier in this thread...

And since the requestor is from Victoria, you may reasonably expect it to have precisely zero impact given that Harris County law enforcement and prosecutors have taken zero interest in moving to shut any rooms down. I would be more concerned if a request was coming from someone with their thumb on Harris or Travis County (the two primary locations where rooms are operating.

Reviewing where the Requestor is getting their campaign contributions from will make for an interesting read though...may give a better clue into who precisely is behind the farcical Houston band of idiots.
02-01-2018 , 09:42 PM
The Attorney General is too busy. He will not even look at all the police departments in violation of the open carry law. Considering all the new places opening and the rest that will open next week the time frame is what interests me. If takes years then people will worry then.

AGA has more money to use then we will in a lifetime. When Lake Charles feels it then they will do something.

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Originally Posted by HTwnPokerGuy
An attorney general opinion cleared the way for bar poker tournaments to expand in Texas without fear of prosecution.

An attorney general opinion by the current Attorney General effectively ended daily fantasy sports in Texas.

This request is big news...as will be the opinion when it comes out.
02-02-2018 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by michelle227
Oh yay...yet ANOTHER newly registered shill.

Requests for Opinion are a common occurrence. Some are answered quick and others take several months. They do not carry the force of law like some people seem to believe they will. Some give such a vague response that the requestor is left even more confused than they were BEFORE the Opinion was sought. It is essentially the same as with the contracted attorney that allegedly wrote the letter to Mint. And as far as I know, no organization has yet sought to address the issues with that letter that were pointed out earlier in this thread...

And since the requestor is from Victoria, you may reasonably expect it to have precisely zero impact given that Harris County law enforcement and prosecutors have taken zero interest in moving to shut any rooms down. I would be more concerned if a request was coming from someone with their thumb on Harris or Travis County (the two primary locations where rooms are operating.

Reviewing where the Requestor is getting their campaign contributions from will make for an interesting read though...may give a better clue into who precisely is behind the farcical Houston band of idiots.
Will the Attorney General solicit input in any form?
02-02-2018 , 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FearlessPhil
Will the Attorney General solicit input in any form?
The only request for 'input' that may enter the equation is if whoever does the writing for Ken's office on this one elected to ask the Requestor to clarify something or narrow the scope of the request. This is not the same as when an agency places something out for public comment.

And given that the interpretations by that office on simple things like the Texas Public Information Act are noted for bending depending on who made the request for records, I don't view this as the earth-shattering issue that the shills make it out to be.

But hey, I only have dealings with the OAG on a weekly basis in the course of the work I do on behalf of clients...
02-04-2018 , 03:25 AM
Ended up making the drive down to Post Oak, as when I called Hanger they said the were "finishing up a tournament and about to start playing cash." There were apparently 4 players on the 1/3 list waiting for the donkament to end. That seemed like a game likely to never start or to die quickly.

Post Oak had lots of games, but almost all 1/3. One game each of 5/5NL and 5/5 PLO. Still with the "match the big stack" buy in limit, the game played plenty big. Nice venue. Rather expensive for a short session, especially with the initiation fee, but lots of action in a nice atmosphere.
02-10-2018 , 11:43 PM
Went to Legion last night. They had a huge turn out for the their tournament. They were only able to get 3 cash table going. Must have been at least 130 or more in the tournament. Most left after they busted out... I played 1/3 cash... Did pretty well.
02-12-2018 , 10:57 PM
What is Legion?
02-13-2018 , 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by zizek
What is Legion?
New one - https://mobile.twitter.com/LegionTXPoker

People that opened it ran the old Legion underground room.
02-13-2018 , 12:56 PM
Are there any Austin players that read this thread?

A player from Austin told me that there were a couple recent incidents at the Texas Card House in Round Rock. Players were followed home on 2 separate occasions and robbed. TCH looked at the tapes to see if they could see anything unusual and were able to identify the person that did the robberies. It was a player that would watch someone cash out, leave their chips on the table, follow that person home and rob them of their cash. They would then go back to TCH and continue playing. What an alibi! Fortunately they were caught. TCH kept this out of the news and I couldn't find anything about it online.

Is there anyone in Austin that has heard about this? Don't like to post without concrete information but the guy who told me seems legit.

Either way a good lesson to make sure we keep a look out when leaving any casino/card room to make sure we aren't being followed. I try to do this anyway but sometimes after a long session may not pay as close attention as I should. Stay safe out there!
02-13-2018 , 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
Either way a good lesson to make sure we keep a look out when leaving any casino/card room to make sure we aren't being followed. I try to do this anyway but sometimes after a long session may not pay as close attention as I should. Stay safe out there!
This was actually one of the reasons I preferred playing at POPC...their security was good about keeping an eye on me from the time I left the door to the time I was in my car.

But definitely concur that people need to be aware of their surroundings, especially with cash in their pockets.

      
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