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09-21-2017 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by IHP
I would LOVE to know what streets your are listening to for the current "word". As one of the owners of the Post Oak Poker Club I can assure you and anyone else reading this that there are no charges filed against the Post Oak Poker Club.

Sadly there are game runners and other people who are very jealous of what we have created. They will say anything, post nonsense, and try their very best to tarnish the reputation of our club to keep players from going. There are even ridiculous web sites up and running that claim to be "fighting the good fight" to stop all "legal" poker rooms. (Funny how they do nothing to warn the public about the UG rooms)

We have simply given poker players one more option for a place to play. Some will choose to stay in the under ground scene, some will choose to make the road trip out of state, and some will choose to stop by and check out the Post Oak Poker Club. I guarantee you won't be able to find anything like it anywhere nearby.

If you have questions or something you would like to clear up about our room and what is going on behind the scenes I would be happy to answer questions. You can email me directly at Bill@ihostpoker.com

Thanks for stopping by and clearing this up..
09-21-2017 , 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by clivestraddle
lol...it just makes me angry for I don't even post 1/2 of the things I know about mint - the problem is that not enough people get angry about this continuing to operate with all the evidence - but as one player said to me....THE GAMES ARE GOOD
As I have said several times. I have played at Mint a bunch and the games are very good.
09-21-2017 , 09:55 PM
There's not a place within a 500 mile radius of the state of Texas where the games aren't good.
09-22-2017 , 11:13 AM
Assuming since we have heard nothing from Poker Rooms of Texas since they went dark, and subsequently Big Texas was told to shut down... That Plano doesn't intend to be poker room friendly.

So far FTN in McKinney seems to be running without local harassment.
09-22-2017 , 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by KhoiFish15
Do the players get a misdemeanor?
Much depends on what the prosecuting office wants to pursue. The game room prosecutions typically see prosecution only against the owner/operator. However, the players are at risk of the Class A misdemeanor. A truly ambitious prosecutor could always try and throw the 'money laundering' Hail Mary, but I am not sure that would fly even in a courtroom occupied by the Baptists on the Brazos (besides, Reyna has his hands full with the Twin Peaks cases).

The more likely outcome would be the players get ushered out without an opportunity to cash in their chips, meaning that they lost whatever was on the table but there would be no charge filed against them...
09-22-2017 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by IHP
I would LOVE to know what streets your are listening to for the current "word". As one of the owners of the Post Oak Poker Club I can assure you and anyone else reading this that there are no charges filed against the Post Oak Poker Club.
Can confirm nothing as of yesterday afternoon on the Harris County District Clerk's website, which would include anything filed as a Class B and above. I also ran the civil side of the website and saw nothing under the three principal names that were in the article.
09-22-2017 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by westhoff
It's kinda hard to say you're not receiving economic benefit from gambling when the only reason you're open is gambling.
That could be where a place like Post Oak derives the biggest benefit from having gone into a former restaurant location that still has the bar set-up in place and functional along with many of the booths. There ARE things beyond 'gambling' that can occur...like eating and drinking.
09-22-2017 , 04:09 PM
Not sure what happened but I just recieved this email from lone star card house in conroe...

"We want to thank every member of LSCH who has come out to play, but unfortunately we will be closing our doors this Saturday the 23rd. Stop by this weekend for your last chance to play some 1-2 no limit Texas Hold’em or in one of our tournaments. We will be looking for another place to relocate to so we will keep everyone updated. We have had a blast."
09-22-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PastaTeke
Not sure what happened but I just recieved this email from lone star card house in conroe...

"We want to thank every member of LSCH who has come out to play, but unfortunately we will be closing our doors this Saturday the 23rd. Stop by this weekend for your last chance to play some 1-2 no limit Texas Hold’em or in one of our tournaments. We will be looking for another place to relocate to so we will keep everyone updated. We have had a blast."
Nothing "happened". I said this would happen a month ago.

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They're moving up to $9/hour at some point in September, at which point I expect the venue will die- they're nice people, but they compound bad managerial decisionmaking with resistance to player opinions. They could still carve a good niche as a "value" place to play if they go to $4-$5/hr, but right now they're going in charging the same rate as venues that outclass them across the board.
McDonald's doesn't stay open by charging $12 for a quarter pounder just because some burger joints do.

Last edited by zizek; 09-22-2017 at 05:58 PM.
09-24-2017 , 04:18 AM
in the time i ran club 333 ...approx 11 "rake free" start ups failed - several reasons but it boils down to having a large enough customer base ...and enough money to operate for 1 yr minimum
09-25-2017 , 09:48 PM
Hey so I just want to make sure I understand the current state of play in DFW for membership poker clubs with time rakes/seat fees:

1. CJ's Card Club in Dallas...raided by police on 9/7/17 with all player money seized...shut down
Source: http://www.pokeratlas.com/poker-room...dallas/reviews

2. Big Texas Poker in Plano...sent letter by Plano police telling them to shut down or face enforcement action...and that Plano police had determined the business model violates Chapter 47 of the Penal Code...shut down
Source: http://bigtexaspoker.com/wp-content/..._Letters-1.jpg

3. Poker Rooms of Texas in Plano...similar interaction with Plano police as Big Texas Poker...website says shut down
Source: http://www.pokerroomsoftexas.com/

4. FTN Poker in McKinney...still open
Source: https://www.facebook.com/ftnpoker/?ref=py_c

This all correct?
09-25-2017 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HTwnPokerGuy
Hey so I just want to make sure I understand the current state of play in DFW for membership poker clubs with time rakes/seat fees:

1. CJ's Card Club in Dallas...raided by police on 9/7/17 with all player money seized...shut down
Source: http://www.pokeratlas.com/poker-room...dallas/reviews

2. Big Texas Poker in Plano...sent letter by Plano police telling them to shut down or face enforcement action...and that Plano police had determined the business model violates Chapter 47 of the Penal Code...shut down
Source: http://bigtexaspoker.com/wp-content/..._Letters-1.jpg

3. Poker Rooms of Texas in Plano...similar interaction with Plano police as Big Texas Poker...website says shut down
Source: http://www.pokerroomsoftexas.com/

4. FTN Poker in McKinney...still open
Source: https://www.facebook.com/ftnpoker/?ref=py_c

This all correct?
Yep, that seems to be about it.
09-27-2017 , 05:05 PM
@IHP , what's up with your website?
09-27-2017 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Makonnen
@IHP , what's up with your website?
Yes interesting, Post Oak Poker club site is down. I got their daily email today touting tourneys and cash games so hopefully it's just a glitch.
09-27-2017 , 07:41 PM
Been down a few days for sure

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09-27-2017 , 08:36 PM
There are recent posts on Facebook so must just be something wrong with the website.
09-27-2017 , 10:42 PM
Sent them a msg and was told they are working on a new site w more features. Said it would be up soon
09-28-2017 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BulltexasATM
Yes interesting, Post Oak Poker club site is down. I got their daily email today touting tourneys and cash games so hopefully it's just a glitch.
With the various issues Statewide, it would be a prudent decision to pull the website. The website being down does not seem to have adversely impacted mid-week cash game turnouts...
09-29-2017 , 09:19 AM
One curious question stands out for a grinder
At what level is 1/2 or 1/3 NLHE beatable?
If you add the fees before you sit down and the first half hr fee
example $10 door and $5 per half hr - the first half hr costs you $15 or $30 per hr
the first hr would be $20
the 2nd hr would 16.66
the 3rd hr would be 13.33
the 4hr hr would be 12.50......at this point you are heading in the lower limit of profitable playing time - your average concentration starts to diminish and realistically you are best to play 3.5-5 hrs - situations change this factor but this generalization applies to most sessions.

So that being said...are low stakes poker profitable at these rates?
09-29-2017 , 11:54 AM
In 224 hours at Plano room at 1/2 I was at $22/hr. They were $40/month and $10/hr (plus tax). So yeah it's beatable and I would say better than standard drop+rake at casinos.
09-29-2017 , 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by clivestraddle
So that being said...are low stakes poker profitable at these rates?
When you look at some of the trash people play, then the answer is absolutely. Hand selection can be more critical, but long-term, in that environment, it absolutely is beatable...

Not everyone playing is a 'grinder' though. There is also the element of players who go to play and are not looking at making their living from poker. And in that regard, ten to twelve hours a week that returns only a few hundred overall is still something most people will be content with as it covers a bottle of decent wine...

Personally, grinding low-stakes would be mind-numbingly boring...being around tables that long when there really isn't that much in play just isn't worth the time. It becomes a little better when caps are removed and there is a chance at actually seeing $15-20K at a full ring game, but when people are limited to small buy-ins like $200-$300...just blah.
09-29-2017 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by westhoff
In 224 hours at Plano room at 1/2 I was at $22/hr. They were $40/month and $10/hr (plus tax). So yeah it's beatable and I would say better than standard drop+rake at casinos.
Standard drop rate at casino is about 120/hr rake -also a lot more comps - free drinks etc
10-01-2017 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Kipboggins
It feels like the Go fund me page is to help recoup the business lost since they were opened for like 3 weeks because how are the funds going to help make poker legal in Texas? You would have to fight the city, county, maybe even the State. Could cost hundreds of thousands and would be an extremely hard uphill battle....
Looks like it bought some boardgames and a ping pong table. "Big Texas Game Club". Wonder if Plano will fall for it?
10-01-2017 , 01:15 PM
Here's idea..why don't the owners run a club that is 100% member supported - members will pay a fee for running the club - cover the costs etc - do it for the love of the game instead of a profit

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NAH....that would never work...lol

      
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