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Originally Posted by MasterAsylum
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I just don't see why there would be a dedicated dealer at the table.
Understandable, but I can frame the question from my perspective also - I don't see why anyone would want everyone to have a turn dealing? Why do I want some guy that can't deal to have a turn?
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How do you select the dealer?
I select people I know and trust. I have confidence in their abilities to act in the capacity of a dealer. Similair to what one would expect in a casino.
If I don't know them then I would have to take them at they're word that they can deal. Of course I could also have them demonstrate their skills and ask them how they would handle some different situations. Basically, interview them.
The everyone deals method has no such determining factors. It's just everyone at the table.
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What if they kind of suck at dealing?
My method: They don't. That's the whole point of having a dedicated dealer. It's a player that plays a similiar role to a dealer in a casino. They're chosen to deal because they know how, they're willing to learn and they don't mind the additional responsibility. They're not expected to be perfect. They will make mistakes. But they understand their role and strive to be fair and unbiased.
Everyone deals method: They could. But that won't be discovered until it's their turn. Unless they speak up and announce they suck. When it's the bad dealers turn who controls the action? Who makes the decisions? Is there always a misdeal or mistake on their turn? What do you do about the guy who drinks a little too much? The problems this method can cause are exponentially greater as so many more players are involved in the process.
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How do you get a diff dealer in their place if they suck without kind of embarrassing them?
My method: It's not an issue due to the reasons above. However, if there was an issue my last concern would be if they're embarrassed. I expect my dealers to have a fiduciary duty to the game. If they fail in this then they've let down more than just me.
Everyone deals: Excellent question? I guess you just put up with it. Or do you tell a guy he's not good enough. Who decides? Who tells him? Hopefully you're not at a table where like half the guys are really bad.
When one of the guys at the end is dealing do others help him drag in chips, push the pot and gather folded cards. A lot of hands involved. My method only one player does this.
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I don't have any personal concerns, and I won't be attending. (Sorry, not flying out for the game. :P) I just think there is a chance for some stupid things to pop up by not keeping to a fairly obviously fair game. I'm by no means a home poker pro, so really I don't have much reasoning. Just seems like people could perceive it wrong or foolishly and get ******ed about it.
Look at Bumba's group, he had some serious winners to deal w/. Logic need not apply to some people?
I don't know where unfairness enters the picture. Where does it say to be fair eveyone must deal?
Whats fair about having 2 bad dealers at a table of 8. That means that 25% of the hands per round will be poorly dealt. This takes away from the playing experience and adds unneeded stress. How is this fair? Why not just have one guy who knows what he's doing deal so everyone can relax and enjoy themselves.
To me, having one competent person dealing, alleviates the concerns you raised much more than having everyone at the table have a turn. I honeslty think having everyone deal creates the concerns
Lastly, I can only address legitimate, rational concerns. If someone wants to be irrational about it then nothing I can say, or do, will be able to address their concerns. I'm also not going to change methods that have worked very well for over 5 years because some player, as you put it "gets all ******ed about it".
Thanks for bringing this subject up. It might even be worth starting a new thread about. Or not.