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08-11-2011 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Naked_Rectitude
people are starving in africa and you complain whenever someone hits a 14-outer.
I gotta put this on a sticky note and attach it to my monitor.

A wise man once said , when things have got you down, or when blinded with rage and have no means to express yourself, always remember:
People are starving in Africa.

If only more people were reminded of this universal truth. Depression, anxiety neurosis, psychosis and all forms of mental disorders would be instantly cured amongst those who could afford it.

Perhaps why happyness levels are so low among the rich is a simple fact that they were not aware of the hunger levels in africa.
08-11-2011 , 03:30 PM
How am i not on that list? I got people off their game soooo welllll, espec 200 400
08-11-2011 , 03:54 PM
"hey lets play!"
"ok mark"
-sitout-
"PWNED"
08-12-2011 , 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by gameoverjc
This guy doesn't like me, so if I agree with him it's probably really true. IQ is a factor but not a huge one, dedication, motivation, creativity, etc etc.

I know lot of smart people who are horrible at poker, and lot of idiots who are close to savant level.

If you just use online 6 max all time, and have actually played with the guys, I think it's schneider (huge influence thru cr), schaf(depri), skillgamblin, serok(korex), superman, and anyone else with an S name.

Last edited by gameoverjc; 08-10-2011 at 08:09 PM. Reason: also iq tests online are fake. 98/100 people don't have an iq above 130
My top 3 was made tongue in cheek, because I don't play high stakes. It was just top 3 judging post, videos, results etc. So I really aren't the right guy to judge high stakes players. I just respect those 3 players and wanted to show respect to them.

About IQ: If you are smart, disciplined (not a degen, tilt problems etc.) and work hard you can beat fairly high levels. If everything else is the same, but you are dumb you can't beat anything but micros. Those idiots who are close to savant level have overall IQ of little over 100, they are like 140 in some areas and about 75 in some others.

BTW my IQ test was made by psychologist, but my score doesn't mean anything, because I'm a life loser, mostly because I have no social skills.

Last edited by I like Milfs; 08-12-2011 at 11:39 AM.
08-12-2011 , 11:37 AM
these threads are just dandy
08-12-2011 , 01:02 PM
If you want to beat high stakes, Aspergers is mandatory.
08-12-2011 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
FWIW, the two smartest poker players (by far) were mediocore poker players at best (by todays competition standard at least). Bill chen and David sklansky.
It's intresting, that Sklansky never did better than he did. He is a slow thinker, but shouldn't be that big a problem at live poker. I think Chen is just confused. He levels himself (exploitive vs optimal).
08-12-2011 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by I like Milfs
My top 3 was made tongue in cheek, because I don't play high stakes. It was just top 3 judging post, videos, results etc. So I really aren't the right guy to judge high stakes players. I just respect those 3 players and wanted to show respect to them.

About IQ: If you are smart, disciplined (not a degen, tilt problems etc.) and work hard you can beat fairly high levels. If everything else is the same, but you are dumb you can't beat anything but micros. Those idiots who are close to savant level have overall IQ of little over 100, they are like 140 in some areas and about 75 in some others.

BTW my IQ test was made by psychologist, but my score doesn't mean anything, because I'm a life loser, mostly because I have no social skills.
lol, heis is admitted one of the biggest tilters and def is a degen as well.
08-12-2011 , 03:55 PM
meh
08-12-2011 , 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by RonMexico
level?
No?

Sklanskys ideas blow me away...

Theory of poker at the time was so far ahead of anything that it more or less revolutionized poker.
DUCY? shows a ton of creative logic that id never be able to come up with.

He claims to test in the high genius level IQ's and given what hes written I believe him.
08-12-2011 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Heisenb3rg
No?

Sklanskys ideas blow me away...

Theory of poker at the time was so far ahead of anything that it more or less revolutionized poker.
DUCY? shows a ton of creative logic that id never be able to come up with.

He claims to test in the high genius level IQ's and given what hes written I believe him.
Sklansky is def a smart, but poker doesn't work like science. There were people who knew this stuff, but didn't write about it, because it wasn't profitable to do so in early 1980s (if you were a world class player), when poker wasn't big worldwide. Said that Sklansky was def ahead of time and is someone I respect.
08-12-2011 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by I like Milfs
Sklansky is def a smart, but poker doesn't work like science. There were people who knew this stuff, but didn't write about it, because it wasn't profitable to do so in early 1980s (if you were a world class player), when poker wasn't big worldwide. Said that Sklansky was def ahead of time and is someone I respect.
Being honest, how the hell I know there were people who knew this before Sklansky? I don't, but reading Super System and thinking about all-time gambling legends guys like Ed Thorpe, Stanford Wong etc. Neither were poker player, but were super smart esp. Thorpe. I just suspect Sklansky wasn't the only one.
08-12-2011 , 05:07 PM
I expect DUCY to win Sklansky a Fields Medal in no time.
08-12-2011 , 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by I like Milfs
About IQ: If you are smart, disciplined (not a degen, tilt problems etc.) and work hard you can beat fairly high levels. If everything else is the same, but you are dumb you can't beat anything but micros. Those idiots who are close to savant level have overall IQ of little over 100, they are like 140 in some areas and about 75 in some others.
No clue why I'm responding. But read your statement. Better yet, allow me to be tautological for a moment and rephrase:

"IF two players have the same levels of motivation, br management, dedication, and intelligence - but one has 1 million and the other has 1k, the one with more resources will be more successful in the long run."

In reference to your comment on 75 vs 140, I said they were idiots - not mentally handicapped people in a wheelchair.

Take a look at the stock market, or most industries: are the richest people always the smartest people in the company? No.

This is why it's a moot issue to specifically address the IQ point when there are a multitude of other salient factors that account for one's success in poker.
08-12-2011 , 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gameoverjc
No clue why I'm responding. But read your statement. Better yet, allow me to be tautological for a moment and rephrase:

"IF two players have the same levels of motivation, br management, dedication, and intelligence - but one has 1 million and the other has 1k, the one with more resources will be more successful in the long run."

In reference to your comment on 75 vs 140, I said they were idiots - not mentally handicapped people in a wheelchair.

Take a look at the stock market, or most industries: are the richest people always the smartest people in the company? No.

This is why it's a moot issue to specifically address the IQ point when there are a multitude of other salient factors that account for one's success in poker.
This is a fun thread, why the hostility? Actually I don't get this all, what is your point?

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IF two players have the same levels of motivation, br management, dedication, and intelligence - but one has 1 million and the other has 1k, the one with more resources will be more successful in the long run."
Let's say that these two are the two best players in the world. 1 million guy plays the biggest online limit game and 1k guy works his way up and in no time plays also in the biggest game. Of course the 1 million guy makes more lifetime, beacuse he spent more time in the big game, but the 1k guy also ends up rich. So what's the difference here?


I don't think you understand my savant comment or my comments about IQ. Of course there's more factors, than overall IQ. You have to be strong at those IQ areas that matters in poker + of course there's other factors like work ethic, risk tolerance, tilt control etc.

It might be possible, that you didn't get my point, because of my bad english?

Last edited by I like Milfs; 08-12-2011 at 07:12 PM.
08-12-2011 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by I like Milfs
It might be possible, that you didn't get my point, because of my bad english?
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This thread is about briliance of the top players, their IQ and ownage. This thread is praise of limit hold'em and it's greatest minds. I love limit hold'em!
No, I got your point. The counter argument I made was that if you take any individual salient quality away from a successful poker player, that another person in possession of that quality will be more successful (whether it be IQ or br or tilt control).

You even admitted to this later on (which I quoted)
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About IQ: If you are smart, disciplined (not a degen, tilt problems etc.) and work hard you can beat fairly high levels. If everything else is the same, but you are dumb you can't beat anything but micros.
I wasn't dismissive of IQ - it obviously plays a role. I merely pointed out, as you did, that more factors play an integral role to the development.

I guess you missed the point of my point of rephrasing your point to make my point mimic your point and to point out that your point had a point in it.
08-12-2011 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gameoverjc
No, I got your point. The counter argument I made was that if you take any individual salient quality away from a successful poker player, that another person in possession of that quality will be more successful (whether it be IQ or br or tilt control).

You even admitted to this later on (which I quoted)

I wasn't dismissive of IQ - it obviously plays a role. I merely pointed out, as you did, that more factors play an integral role to the development.

I guess you missed the point of my point of rephrasing your point to make my point mimic your point and to point out that your point had a point in it.
Fair enough. I think we agree.
08-13-2011 , 12:45 AM
lots of people hating on sklansky but heis nailed it imo. it's not just the theory of poker, it's a lot of the brilliant and thought provoking stuff he comes up with.

he has a different kind of brilliance than bill chen (who is probably "more intelligent" in the raw testing sense).

he also has the "genius" social awkwardness lol.
08-13-2011 , 02:37 AM
and he open limps K9s in a ****ty black chip lhe game. obv the greatest.
08-13-2011 , 04:32 AM
you don't need a super high IQ to beat the game, there are plenty of real life idiots who are good at poker. it really isn't that hard of a game.

and on the flip side there are plenty of really smart successful businessmen, doctors, lawyers, etc who can't play a lick or who are mediocre at best.
08-13-2011 , 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by I like Milfs
OK, I'm drunk and I'm not a fan boy, but these are the 3 players I respect most:

1. Heisenb3rg
2. JDalla
3. Unguarded

Discuss

OK, some of you may take this as a lol thread, but there isn't lot of limit hold'em discussion these days, so this is better than nothing.

Without these players post and inspitration I would not be as big winner as I am.
Thank you I am glad you have not only benefited from the wealth of LHE poker strategy I post on the internets, but you have also seen fit to realize the true pecking order of 6max LHE. B0rg is in fact the greatest, but he has one major leak - he ranks schaefsheep at least 3 spots too high. I think with time and practice you can surpass him for this reason and this reason alone.

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Originally Posted by BK1248
jdalla is much better at ci-lo than 6 max poker, thing that suxs is all his old ci-lo videos got lost on stox after they closed
However I do offer live ci-lo coaching, I charge only my losses, or if you're a friend the cheaper rate of $575/hr.

Last edited by JDalla; 08-13-2011 at 05:21 AM. Reason: 1 session every 2 months is the path to $$ these days in lhe
08-13-2011 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JDalla
However I do offer live ci-lo coaching, I charge only my losses, or if you're a friend the cheaper rate of $575/hr.
lol
08-13-2011 , 08:28 PM
hey Jdalla, you offer coaching? considering the lessons i gave you in the past do you think you can maybe"coach me" for free? its a hobby of mine to see what goes on in the mind of madmen/serial killers... i find it very interesting,id love to know how you go about thinking sometimes.
08-13-2011 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark275
hey Jdalla, you offer coaching? considering the lessons i gave you in the past do you think you can maybe"coach me" for free? its a hobby of mine to see what goes on in the mind of madmen/serial killers... i find it very interesting,id love to know how you go about thinking sometimes.
yea get back on stars in Oct of later, play me hu 30/60 or higher for 500 hands, and then after the match I'll give you 90ish minutes of free coaching and let you see all my cards. Play less hands and get nothing! Serious offer!
08-13-2011 , 09:40 PM
ok ill seriously take you up on that, i been on cake/RPM tho now, have you tried those? lol 500 hands? we played 500 hands lifetime i believe, and lol i just looked im a winner at 200/400 :-) big loser in 30 60 tho, so many clowns played there, it was amazing the plays ppl made vs me cuz they wanted to beat me so badly,

      
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